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post #1 of 3 Old 06-28-2014, 01:59 AM Thread Starter
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Needing two point rehab

So during May and June I half leased an OTTB who has been doing English for 3 years and is owned by a younger girl. The owner lets him get away with being behind the leg and she trots him to every jump, so he has gotten into the habit of having to overcompensate and overjump everything.

The way he jumps is kind of choppy: you get a good trot approach to the jump and he pops up over it, not very smooth at all. He also lacks a lot of pace to a jump, which has made me feel like I need to throw myself at the jump to get him over and over exaggerate my two point. Bad, bad, bad habit.

The horse has been lame for nearly 3 weeks but is finally better but I won't be jumping him anymore and I am switching barns. At my new barn, I rode a horse with much more pace to the jumps and it was absolutely fantastic.

Anyways, the problem: I am still jumping ahead and falling on my horse's neck when I jump and in some videos from a while ago I'm not really releasing at all. My lower leg is sliding back but I am kind of 'squatting' in the saddle so it just looks horrible. Hands not releasing, leg sliding back, jumping ahead, the whole shebang.

What can I do to improve on some of this? Definitely going to talk it over with my new trainer at my lesson this weekend. Any tips to help the jumping ahead (problem I've had for a while), keeping my leg at the girth, and the like would be extremely helpful and appreciated.

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post #2 of 3 Old 07-16-2014, 02:20 AM
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I have some advice but every person (and their horse) so please let me know if any of this works. But for the leg and girth I found bareback riding a very helpful exercise. It builds thigh muscles (and butt muscles) which keeps your legs in proper position while going over jumps and riding in general. Also for the throwing yourself at a jump I recommend setting ground poles down but not a stride a part set them up like a course and trot them while two pointing. Get into a comfortable pace and count your strides or your seconds, time yourself into that jump(pole) to find a comfortable distance and gently glide into it do it slow motion (at a walk) if needed. Also just trotting in a circle and two pointing in general can help with both while you keep your hands raised and off the horse's neck. Work on your hands while doing the poles on the ground as well but without the two point and then put the two point and raised hands together. Don't take this the wrong way but once something like that happens (your two point being destroyed) it's easiest to start back at the basics. :) hope this helps
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post #3 of 3 Old 07-20-2014, 10:35 PM
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What has worked best for me is trotting in two-point in an arena with mirrors. Do you know what a good two-point looks like? If not, look at people like Andrew Nicholson or George Morris. Or, better yet, start looking at George Morris' critiques of two-points. You'll soon be able to see what is proper and what is not. Once you get that picture in your head, trot in two-point around the arena. Glance at yourself in the mirrors. Is your body in the ideal position? If not, correct it. Once it is at an ideal position, try to remember how it feels. This will help when you start jumping.

Best advice I can give you when jumping is to practice waiting. Go on the other end of the spectrum if you have to. Don't even try to two-point. Just give a release. Your horse's jump should push you out of the saddle just as much as you need. With this, I do have a tendency to sit back too early, so make sure you are over the jump completely before you let yourself go back.

No stirrup work is supposed to really help develop muscles I hear. :)

Oh, and I think doing some grid work on a seasoned horse would work very well. You don't really have to worry about weird strides in a grid because it is measured out to fit proper horse strides, so you can focus on your two-point.

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