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  • Do i need jumping lessons
  • Should one use bell boots on a horse if he clips rails

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    08-22-2012, 02:50 PM
  #1
Weanling
Newbie at jumping needs advice!

Some of you may have seen my newest horse, Mellow. I've never ridden English before, but there wasn't something about him that screamed at me "English". He doesn't hold his head like a Western horse would, and his trot is too fast for a WTC class. Anyway, I'm thinking about trying him at jumping to see if he enjoys it.

I can't really afford a trainer so I'm going to be most of the work myself. I've been watching videos and chatting with friends who are jumpers and I was wondering if the wonderful folks here at HF had any suggestions for how to get him started and what to watch for. Here are a few questions, but please don't limit your answers to just these.

1) What sort of equipment will I need, besides the actual jumps?
2) How can I tell if he's not going to be any good at it? I think this is my biggest question, because I don't want to push him to do something if he isn't going to enjoy it or be good at it.
3) Um, that's all the questions I can think of...

I have a friend who can help me with my post and riding before she moves in November, but after that I'm pretty much on my own. Also, it might be hard to do work every day because I have a baby in the house but we'll try!
     
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    08-22-2012, 03:39 PM
  #2
Weanling
1. I always use brushing boots on my horse just incase he hits the rail of the jump.
2. I know my horse loves to jump because he will be a lazy old man untill I point him at a jump and then he pricks his ears up and goes :) When I was trying horses for sale, some of them didn't jump the way you would expect. If the horse is young or new for jumping they will probably jump WAY bigger than they need to. This is normal, but if the horse just runs through the jump or doesn't become more fluid over time, they might not be perfect for a juping career. Your horse will tell you if it doesn't like jumping- they either won't do it or throw fits about it.

I would just start W/T/C over poles untill he relaxes, then slowly raise the jump. Let him figure out what to do with his feet up to the jump. Set him up for a good distance by keeping him balanced and forward, then a few strides away from the jump don't give any big cues or mess with his mouth. This teaches him to figure it out for himself. Also, my trainer always says to let them canter away from the jump because it gives them confidence.
     
    08-22-2012, 03:41 PM
  #3
Weanling
1) What sort of equipment will I need, besides the actual jumps?
2) How can I tell if he's not going to be any good at it? I think this is my biggest question, becauseand I don't want to push him to do something if he isn't going to enjoy it or be good at it.
3) Um, that's all the questions I can think of...

Before you even start, youll need to learn how to ride english. Make sure that your xpierenced enough yourself or you might do something wrong, look into talking with people and making sure you know what your doing. If you ever need anything I can answer more questions... just make sure you know what your doing including your two point and your releases

1) It all depends you'll need a english saddle, girth, bridle. The extras depend on your horse, watch your horse over a few jumps, free in the ring, does he brush while jumping if he does you might want to buy some bell boots if he throws his head up while cllecting for the jump you might want to get an martingale
2) Youll be able to know becaus he wont feel comfortable and he wont look comfortable over the jumps, I've never really worked with a horse who doesnt like jumping so I wouldnt know what else might send a red flag up.
     
    08-22-2012, 07:59 PM
  #4
Weanling
Thanks for the tips! I'm really excited about getting started.
     
    08-22-2012, 08:14 PM
  #5
Yearling
I think everyone else answered your questions well, there are just a few things I want to say:

*Release! Hitting your horse in the mouth will eventually sour him to jumping.
*Do you know how to two-point? Can you hold it, and be stable, for long periods of time? If not, work on that.
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    08-26-2012, 07:54 PM
  #6
Weanling
1) What sort of equipment will I need, besides the actual jumps?
2) How can I tell if he's not going to be any good at it? I think this is my biggest question, because I don't want to push him to do something if he isn't going to enjoy it or be good at it.

1- saddle.. bridle... girth... boots... helmet... theres a lot you will need.

2- If he doesn’t like it he will most likely stop at the fence

To be honest it doesn’t really sound like you should be trying to teach this horse to jump. Green horse + Green rider = Lots of problems! Are you able to get a coach or trainer out to help you with this at all? Why can't anyone come out to help? It is EXTREAMLY hard ( I think impossible ) to teach a horse something from reading it on the computer, it can be helpful to hear others approaches to the same problem you have had but no one can teach you how to do something especially train a horse.

Not to sound harsh but I would really really suggest not doing it... Its extremely dangerous..There is SO much work to go in before you even get to a jump, especially if you want your horse to be good at it and enjoy doing it.
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    09-01-2012, 12:44 AM
  #7
Foal
For the equipment I would say you need an english saddle, bridle, girth, boots, helmet, and maybe a crop or spurs if you need it.
He will probably stop at the jumps if he doesn't want to do it.

If I where you I would get myself an english trainer just to learn the basics before you jump because trust me, there's a lot more to it. I ride both english and western and they are completely different. Just make sure you go into a two point at the jump and keep your heels down toes up. If you don't know what I mean by two point then you should really consider taking a few jumping lessons.
Hope it works out for you!
     
    09-01-2012, 09:42 AM
  #8
Yearling
Just a thought. Although many people are saying the horse will refuse if he doesn't want to jump, there are different reasons a horse can refuse, including the rider lacking confidence, the rider not correctly riding to the jump, etc. If he refuses, I'd look at other possible reasons first.
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    09-01-2012, 09:48 AM
  #9
Showing
^ Exactly. If a horse stops, it could be for a number of reasons. He could be unsure of himself, lacking confidence in his rider, coming up to a jump on a bad striding, reacting to pain, etc. Knowing if a horse enjoys his job (doesn't apply to just jumping) can take a while. If, when he's experienced and has a lot of time under his belt, he still doesn't seem to enjoy it or continually becomes sour when asked to jump, you have your answer. Developing an affinity for a certain discipline can take a long time.
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    09-06-2012, 09:23 PM
  #10
Foal
You might also free jump your horse. Fence(s) do not be to be high (e.g., 2'9" - 3'3"), but high enough to see his form. He will get used to jumping without someone on his back. And, you will be able to tell (at least somewhat) if he likes to do it.
     

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