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    07-31-2011, 10:03 PM
  #1
Weanling
Not clearing jumps???

My horse is relatively new to jumping, and the highest we've gone is 3 ft.

The issue is, he doesn't tuck enough in his front and he doesn't pick his hind legs up high enough to clear jumps. He keeps knocking them over.

All health issues have been ruled out.

Any advice??
     
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    07-31-2011, 10:06 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I'd first off say health issues, but you've already ruled them out.

Therefore, my first question is how long have you been jumping? Are your jumps PVC or wooden poles?

Setting up things such as small grids or placing a ground poll, ground line or trot polls in front may also help to get the horse to pay more attention to where their legs are OR be able to see a take off point.
Also - how much experience do you have with jumping.
     
    07-31-2011, 10:09 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ChingazMyBoy    
I'd first off say health issues, but you've already ruled them out.

Therefore, my first question is how long have you been jumping? Are your jumps PVC or wooden poles?

Setting up things such as small grids or placing a ground poll, ground line or trot polls in front may also help to get the horse to pay more attention to where their legs are OR be able to see a take off point.
Also - how much experience do you have with jumping.
I have been jumping for 4 years. I use PVC pipe for poles, only because my horse is 11 and I don't want him getting hurt.

I'll try setting up grids and stuff, though. Thanks!
     
    07-31-2011, 10:17 PM
  #4
Trained
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If he is having trouble with hitting poles I would not use pvc. Either he needs to truly learn how to jump [use placement poles, grids, and teach him how to sit back and jump round, not just fling over] or he is lazy and knows the pvc is light and he can just hit it down. Personally I think pvc is more dangerous than wood poles, because it can shatter and because it is light is can get tangled in their legs more easily.

Do you have a trainer ? Or someone who watches you jump ?
     
    07-31-2011, 10:19 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Completely agree with what Gypsygirl said -

PVC piping can be more dangerous at it can split/shatter. With wooden poles there are risks but are very small specially if proper jump wings are used allowing the poles to role and if the horse is wearing proper leg protection.
     
    07-31-2011, 10:40 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
There are many reasons a horse may not make much of an effort. Maybe the jumps are too small and they are boring him to death. Maybe the tack doesn't fit and it hurts to jump, maybe he just doesn't LIKE jumping.

Horses are like people. Different horses like different things. Not all people like doing math problems. If asked to do them, they may not perform well.

I would try doing gymnastic jumping grids (google it) and see if you can't exercise him and give him the power to pick up his legs.
     
    07-31-2011, 10:57 PM
  #7
Foal
Having heavier/wood poles would probably help.

As for him picking up his front legs, my trainer was having a similar problem with her appy. She was told to start jumping him through crossrails and then just lift the sides up higher, so he would have to pick up his front feet. It worked.

Of course you may want to introduce him to the heavy poles first and see if that helps before moving on to other exercises ...
     
    08-02-2011, 07:14 PM
  #8
Foal
Maybe he need better muscles for jumping? My horse was the same way but I started doing more transitions and lunging him on side reins to each him to use his hind more! OR maybe 3ft is as high as your horse wants to jump or is comfortable with? Good luck! :)
     
    08-03-2011, 08:08 AM
  #9
Banned
I totally agree with Gypsygirl and Allison Finch.


The ride can also be the problem with a horse knocking down rails. Please have your trainer evaluate what you are doing (after you have ruled out pain issues like ill fitting tack) to make sure it is not your position/riding that is causing the horse to knock poles.
     
    08-10-2011, 04:02 PM
  #10
Foal
Gymnastics!!! A horse who just doesnt care enough to pick the legs up is usually lazy, bored, or dislikes the job. If he isnt protesting to jumping in any way, just doesnt lift the legs enough, then my guess is lazy. So a lazy horse and become more cautious with gymnastics! Especially bounces, but please build gymnastics slowly! Set up a line of fences with measured distances in whatever youd like. (usually ranging from bounces to 2 strides for most gymnastic lines). Now go through and only leave up the first and last fence, then slowly add in a fence at a time from there until the whole thing is set. You can google and find lots of gymnastic exercises, just make sure to start slow and build from there. You can leave ground lines down where the next jumps will be until you put the actual jump up so that way you can find out if the striding works before adding in the height. Work on these for awhile, like a month or two (theyll really help rider AND horse!!!!) and then do just 2 fence lines in 3-5 strides and see if he picks up his feet more :) Gymnastics are always good to have set up for refreshers anyway!
     

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