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  • How to turn in dressage ring
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    09-02-2011, 04:12 PM
  #11
Foal
I actually don`t know much on this topic, so I`ll be interested to hear what people have to say. I ride hunter. Personally, I always encourage to horse I`m riding to bend using inside rein + inside leg. It gives them something to lean into and bend around as they move around the corners. With stiffer and greener horses, their turns become sloppy and unsteerable if I don`t bend them, because they can`t easily make it around the corner without the support of my inside leg. However, after I initially begin the turn uside inside aids, I slide my outside leg back an inch and apply pressure to complete the turn.

I`ve never been told anything in specific about corners, I just basically played around and figured out what works bests to get the results I want. However, I`m sure that other people think differently, and I`m very interested to hear what people have to say on this post. :)
     
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    09-02-2011, 07:19 PM
  #12
Yearling
Some helpful replies here! This is what I was taught:

- Shoulder swivels in direction of turn.
- Inside rein asks for the turn.
- Inside leg at the girth.
- Outside leg slightly behind the girth.
- Hands straight when exiting the corner.
- (Something about asking the horse to turn his nose...)

Does that sound about right? With the horse I'm riding right now, his balance is so much better when I bend him that way as opposed to going straight into the turn and relying too much on the reins.
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    09-02-2011, 08:08 PM
  #13
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I do ride differently in turns and corners (not the same thing, IMO) when I'm riding dressage and jumping.

A corner in a dressage ring is a turn on steroids and it demands a lot of attention. Coming into a corner, I shorten stride slightly, flex, drive forward (horse loses a lot of impulsion in corners and needs plenty of extra energy), bend, drive forward more, then unbend. All during that time I am half halting and using leg.

Bend and balance .

I also need bend and balance jumping. You can get away with a straight/stiff horse on a hunter course because they seldom have tight turns where jumps suddenly occur at ghastly moments. You cannot ride a jumper or event horse that way. The horse must bend around the corners and face where they are going. They must be able to bend and stay balanced. Stiff/straight horses are easier to get heavy on the forehand and lose engagement of their haunch.

My big difference in how I will ride a turn jumping is more use of outside aids to keep a horse from overbending. I am often going at speed so the method of riding a turn is quite different than riding a corner in a dressage ring. You don't try to gallop a corner there.

As I turn, my outside leg is strong on the girth to assist the horse. I may use some indirect outside rein to support the shoulder, but not to create any bend. My biggest pet peeve ever is a horse jumping while turning with ANY counter bend. Grrrrr.
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    09-05-2011, 07:28 PM
  #14
Weanling
In my opinion jumping is just dressage with fences in the way.
You have the control, the precision and the ability to change the stride length at will.
I think it would depend on the corner, if it was more a bend, you could do it with less bend through the horse, but if you needed a deep corner with a sharp turn, I think having the horse bent would aid with speed, obviously you should not be losing too much power in a corner, that's why we have our horses working from behind so they have that omph to work forward.
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    09-07-2011, 11:39 AM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by CessBee    
In my opinion jumping is just dressage with fences in the way.
I think Alois Podhajsky would agree with you on that! Lol
     

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