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post #1 of 6 Old 08-08-2011, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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Refusing every jump first time

When I jump my horse, if its a new jump, or the same jump but in a different place, he refuses the first time. After he's refused once, he's usually ok, but he does this with every jump. I'm not interested in competing, however I would like to be able to take him up to most jumps and jump it first time. Any idea's on how I should go about getting him out of this habit? Oh and also, this might sound stupid, but i've seen people on here say IMO- what does it mean? Thanks!
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post #2 of 6 Old 08-08-2011, 06:53 PM
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IMO mean in my opinion :)

And I was always taught if a horse refuses don't walk away and try again, but make him go over that time even if it ends up where he knocks it, or jumps it like a deer because he did it from a stand still.. like this lol

EDIT: oops that link doesn't work lol. But type in broken nose horse on youtube and it's the first video. I'm only showing you because the horse refused and she made him go over it
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post #3 of 6 Old 08-08-2011, 07:08 PM
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The horse may think that the TEAM lacks confidence to do it without looking it over.

Put a small jump up. Trot the horse to it (not canter). Look at that jump as if it were in the way of you getting a big mac hamburger!! Ok, I'm kidding here. BUT, you must ramp up your personal aggression. Growl, put your leg on, drive with your seat, give a tap with a dressage whip on the haunch. Let your horse know that NO is not an option. If he does stop, don't give up. MAKE him go over from the stop (the jump is tiny...remember?). Keep at him until he deals with it. Even if he plows over it and knocks it down, you BIG TIME praise him for doing it at all. Keep doing that to help build, not only his confidence in himself, but his confidence in your RESOLVE.

Then, keeping the jump small, add boogers to the jump....cones.....blankets....etc to change the jumps appearance and do the same thing. Do NOT turn him and re approach the jump, period. Keep doing this until he jumps on the first approach. Then really praise him (and yourself).

Only when he has the confidence the first time should you ever increase the height to a point he can't just pop over with you staying on.

BTW, I have had students jump a 3' jump from a halt just to show them the horse can easily do it. Not so easy for the rider, however!! LOL!
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post #4 of 6 Old 08-10-2011, 03:28 PM
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I agree with Allison on this one, I always start my horses SMALL and then its small+fillers, then higher, then higher+fillers. So a 1'6 oxer, then move on to adding fillers, such as flowers, then raise it to 2' but no flowers, then add the flowers in. Slowly work towards your goal, but only move on when the horse is comfortable. I have a pony that will jump almost anything, even though he's green, as long as im riding. But a girl who rides him who is a little nervous about jumping often psyches herself out before the fence so hell stop the first go around and then go over it from there. So make sure YOUR not nervous about it because that is only going to make the stopping worse. Set up a small course, like 1'6, that's very easy to walk over if needed! Set up oxers, fans, verticals, cross rails, planks, gates, add fillers, etc but do it all at this height. Make it funky! Then slowly raise the height after he's fine jumping all of that goofy "scary" stuff at that height. Hell gain confidence and start jumping the first time around, you just have to take the time to make things a piece of cake for him so that he can gain the confidence needed.

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post #5 of 6 Old 08-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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Allison said it very well.

Always over ride the first fence. Leg, seat, and use the crop if you have to.

It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. --Epictetus
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post #6 of 6 Old 08-10-2011, 04:57 PM
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DITTO same issue here with one of my guys and in x-c I can least circle and he goes. But I can't do that in a jumping or hunter class, automatic DQ. Hate to use a crop.

How we've attacked it is this.. enter him in the low level 2' class, once he's "seen" the crazy jump designs, etc he's much better the following rounds. But other than that not found another way around it. AND yes jumping from a stand still is never easy or pretty....
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