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    05-21-2009, 08:07 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Who was the clinitian? Did the clinitian get on your horse at all?

I don't understand this - you pulling your reins down into your pelvic area, creates a stiff rider, and then creates a braced, stiff, on the muscle horse.

I've never seen a clinitian tell their students to pull the reins with such contact, and keep their hands near their crotch - that's baffling to me?
Her name was Nicole Adams, and no she didn't get on my horse.
I went to this same clinic a few years ago, and then after fair had started taking lessons with a new trainer, Linda Mizwicki. (I think that's how you spell it.) I had told her what Adams tried to teach me, and she told me not to do it. Unfortunately, Linda had to move, so no more lessons from her. I really don't want to do these clinics, but I have to if I want to do jumping in fair.

The whole pulling the reins down to your pelvic area just didn't feel right to me, and it was hard to do because she also wanted me to lean VERY far back. Almost to where I could barely see the dang jump clearly over my horse's head!

Today, I jumped my mare bareback over a two small jumps, and she was completely fine. No rushing, just a nice trot the whole time. Maybe before, it was just because she was at a new place, and she was being a brat?
     
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    05-21-2009, 08:19 PM
  #12
Trained
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The whole pulling the reins down to your pelvic area just didn't feel right to me, and it was hard to do because she also wanted me to lean VERY far back. Almost to where I could barely see the dang jump clearly over my horse's head!
I completely cringed when I read this - all I can picture is this poor horse with their mouth gaping, trying to escape from the pressure.

I personally wouldn't clinic under this person again - is there any other avenue you can take?
     
    05-21-2009, 08:57 PM
  #13
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
I completely cringed when I read this - all I can picture is this poor horse with their mouth gaping, trying to escape from the pressure.

I personally wouldn't clinic under this person again - is there any other avenue you can take?
Nope, I only ride english, and she is the only person doing english clinics. I only have to go to three more clinics, but the only thing I can really do is ignore her or just act like I don't understand or something.

But I will NOT let her ride Athena. She may be 'teaching' me at the clinic, but I'm only there because it's required.
     
    05-21-2009, 09:08 PM
  #14
Trained
Well, you are in a pickle than.

If I were in your shoes, I would definitely be asking this clinitian why she has you doing what she is asking you to do. Ask her right out - don't be scared. You have every right to know why this person is showing you this - doesn't matter what it is, if you question it, you have every right to speak up.

Remember, you are paying this person for education *or lack of* but regardless - this is your horse, your time, your money.

Don't pretend that you don't know what you are doing, don't make yourself look the fool. Just try to apply what myself and others have suggested on here. Stick with your guns, your gut feelings - you know your horse, you know what you are doing - so go with that.

Don't pick fights or arguements, but don't be scared to speak up.

All the best to you and your horse - let us know how the 2nd session goes.
     
    05-21-2009, 10:41 PM
  #15
Yearling
Thanks, i'll remember that.
     
    05-21-2009, 11:28 PM
  #16
Yearling
Why are the clinics required??
I don't think its right to make it compulsary for you to do a clinic if you don't agree with the coaches methods.
     
    05-22-2009, 03:32 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Miss Katie    
Why are the clinics required??
I don't think its right to make it compulsary for you to do a clinic if you don't agree with the coaches methods.

Well I don't HAVE to do her clinic, but she is the only person who is giving english clinics for the 4hers. You are required to go to at least 4 clinics with your horse, and I only ride english with this mare. I'm guessing they're required because the 4h leaders want to make sure that the kids know how to ride, can control their horse, and if they need help with anything that would be the place to do it.
     
    05-22-2009, 07:01 PM
  #18
Trained
But - if she's teaching incorrectly - how good are you going to be in the show ring, right?

I understand what you are saying, just stick with it and ride how she wants when you are in this "clinic" and ride how you know you should at home and in the show ring.

I am sorry you are in a pickle - is there any way to discuss this problem with your Parents, and have them bring this issue up with your 4H leaders?
     
    05-22-2009, 09:20 PM
  #19
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
But - if she's teaching incorrectly - how good are you going to be in the show ring, right?

I understand what you are saying, just stick with it and ride how she wants when you are in this "clinic" and ride how you know you should at home and in the show ring.

I am sorry you are in a pickle - is there any way to discuss this problem with your Parents, and have them bring this issue up with your 4H leaders?
It's alright, thanks for the all the help guys! I'm just going to have to tough it out.

My parents are completely anti-horse. It wouldn't make much of a difference even if I explained it to them. The 4h leaders are completely unhelpful and evil. Lol The only reason I know anything about how 4h works is because of my aunt who used to be in it as a kid. I've tried asking questions for the last few years, but they just look at me like I'm complete idiot and ignore me. The thing is VERY rigged. Those who have been in 4h forever (they went, their kids went, etc), and those who have tons of money are the ones who are helped.
It's alright tho, I've got almost all the requirements done, and soon it'll be time for fair.
     

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