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    12-31-2011, 12:26 AM
  #1
Weanling
Rushing/bolting before and after jumps?

So I've probably posted a thread about this before, but it's getting out of hand now.

Destiny is an OTTB and has been a perfect angel on the flat lately. But jumping is another story...

Handling her is bringing me to the point of tears every time I'm on her, and I don't have another option to ride but her.

Destiny has a tendency to BOLT after jumps, big, small, colourful, boring, flowers, anything. Ill bring her into a small crossrail at a trot and two strides before we hit the jump, she pulls into this weird trot/canter/prance thing and then, whenever SHE'S good and ready, will take a gallop stride, dive over the fence, and go crazy on the other side. Usually when we land I try to sit back and circle her until she's calm, but I can't even do that now, she just takes off into a full blown bolt and throws in a barrel turn here and there, which isn't any fun at all obviously....

I've tried walking her into jumps and picking up the trot right before, running her to the wall after, halting right after, steering hard one direction after, circling etc.

We've also read up a bit and worked on her ground manners, flat temperament, and we've worked on tons of poles, she just doesn't seem to calm down.

Lunging before does help some, but around here we aren't allowed to lunge at shows, and the arena is sometimes packed with people leaving us no room...

Oh, and I guess I should add in that her feet/teeth/saddle everything is fine and not bothering her, so this is where I'm stuck.

This post was ALL over the place, sorry. :s Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
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    12-31-2011, 12:34 AM
  #2
Foal
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Originally Posted by FreeDestiny    
So I've probably posted a thread about this before, but it's getting out of hand now.

Destiny is an OTTB and has been a perfect angel on the flat lately. But jumping is another story...

Handling her is bringing me to the point of tears every time I'm on her, and I don't have another option to ride but her.

Destiny has a tendency to BOLT after jumps, big, small, colourful, boring, flowers, anything. Ill bring her into a small crossrail at a trot and two strides before we hit the jump, she pulls into this weird trot/canter/prance thing and then, whenever SHE'S good and ready, will take a gallop stride, dive over the fence, and go crazy on the other side. Usually when we land I try to sit back and circle her until she's calm, but I can't even do that now, she just takes off into a full blown bolt and throws in a barrel turn here and there, which isn't any fun at all obviously....

I've tried walking her into jumps and picking up the trot right before, running her to the wall after, halting right after, steering hard one direction after, circling etc.

We've also read up a bit and worked on her ground manners, flat temperament, and we've worked on tons of poles, she just doesn't seem to calm down.

Lunging before does help some, but around here we aren't allowed to lunge at shows, and the arena is sometimes packed with people leaving us no room...

Oh, and I guess I should add in that her feet/teeth/saddle everything is fine and not bothering her, so this is where I'm stuck.

This post was ALL over the place, sorry. :s Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
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Okay, this is going to sound really bad but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have someone help you or stop riding this horse. I had a friend die because of this EXACT reason. These types of problems sometimes cannot be corrected and these horses are best suited as flat horses. However, sometimes it can be by someone who is capable of handling it. PLEASE do not put yourself in harms way and stick to that flat until someone else can handle the situation.

Edit: My old horse was the EXACT same way and I ended up having to sell him as a "FLAT only horse" because he was SO incredibly dangerous over fences.
     
    12-31-2011, 12:37 AM
  #3
Weanling
I do have a coach, I don't think she'd have me on Des if she was a real dangerous horse. This is more of the both of us just asking if there's a way to slow her down and fix this, there's got to be some way to do so other than just ruling out jumping with her. :s
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    12-31-2011, 12:41 AM
  #4
Trained
If you can get video footage of you riding her, that would be a lot of help.
     
    12-31-2011, 12:42 AM
  #5
Weanling
I'll try and get some next time I'm out if that would help fix this. :)
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    12-31-2011, 01:35 AM
  #6
Foal
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    12-31-2011, 02:57 AM
  #7
Showing
Honestly it could be a ground work issue. If she isn't respecting you enough to stop and listen to YOU rather than do whatever she wants, then that tells me she isn't being respectful nor attentive.. something some groundwork would definitely help.

The main thing about bolting horses is 1. It can be scary 2. It's so easy to get angry 3. You feel so helpless.

Have you tried putting out a few poles on the ground before and after the jumps so she has 4 other things to worry about (where her feet are :P) rather than having a clean sweep to the jump and away? I'm not a jumper but I've worked with a horse that would just go go go and putting down trotting poles helped to calm them down and it might help you out too.

Also, the feed could be another reason why she's got so much energy. That's something to take a look at.

But seriously I think it would be so helpful to have groundwork sessions with her. Working on that ho and immediate responses rather than taking a few strides for any kind of change.

Good luck and please be safe!
     
    12-31-2011, 03:00 AM
  #8
Weanling
Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely put out some poles before and after the jump so she has to focus on something and we'll see how she does. :)
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    12-31-2011, 08:03 AM
  #9
Trained
Its hard to say with out video, but to me it sounds like she's scared. I have no problem with putting poles in front of the jump, but if she's bolting that hard, she's not thinking, so I would not put poles behind the jump. I would not assume she is being bad or naughty.

Have you ever tried just letting her let it out ? I used to ride an ottb who bolted about 7 times a ride with her owner. When she bolted with me I just sat there and did nothing. She only ever bolted 3 times with me in the year I rode her and only in my first two rides. Sometimes if they get scared and we tense or pull on them it makes them think there really is a reason to be scared.
     
    12-31-2011, 08:04 AM
  #10
Trained
What has your trainer said to do to fix this ?
     

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