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post #41 of 50 Old 01-02-2012, 09:22 PM
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Forgot to add. Use this opportunity to make sure you are as quiet up there as you can be and not collapsing on her neck or otherwise unbalancing her. You might find some clues about what's causing her behavior.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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post #42 of 50 Old 01-02-2012, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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How would I make sure not to 'collapse' on her neck? I'm not too sure what you're telling me to do, unless you mean don't smack her neck with my body during or after a jump..
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What I'm saying is, make sure you are using proper jumping form. When doing gymnastics, your upper body should be very quiet, your leg secure and doing nothing to interfere with your horse. Grids are best thing to fix the jumping ahead problem since the horse is doing all the jumping and the rider is free to concentrate on position. My suspicion is maybe you stay forward after your fences and are indirectly contributing to your horse's bolting.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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I sometimes do stay in a half seat/two point, but only because she's going so fast, I never thought I could be encouraging her to go faster, learned something new I guess. :p
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Okay, new exercise then. Pick up a canter and then switch between full seat, light seat and half seat at random making sure you continue to follow her motion with your hands. Several things will be revealed with this exercise. 1. Whether you do or do not follow her mouth evenly in all positions. 2. Where your position is most effective in influencing her canter. 3. Which position she understands to mean 'go'.

I did it because it was discovered I lock my elbows in full seat. I quickly found it's really hard to keep the horse from changing tempo while switching between the 3 seats unless you are riding very effectively. Once you can keep at one tempo consistently, then use the exercise to get her to shorten/lengthen her stride. (not speed up/slow down)

Once you can do both of those, then do the grids.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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Okay, so I've got some stuff to evaluate next time I ride
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post #47 of 50 Old 01-02-2012, 11:17 PM
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Whew! Putting them on the track about 5-6 strides away from the landing couldn't hurt (but you know your horse better, so if you think it could be dangerous, don't attempt it!), I just wanted to make sure you weren't telling her to put them right after the jump! Sooo many people do it and it's bad, bad, bad!
Glad we're on the same page now sorry for giving you a heart attack!
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in this scenario I'm reading it as a mix of tension and being an OTTB forward seat means go.

On the ground ensure she can walk trot and canter over a pole then multiple poles.

You want to be able to halt or at the very least slow down before and after each pole. Just be careful you don't encourage refusal by stopping every time too close to the jump.

Slightly (I use tires) put the poles up on one side ensure she can walk trot canter over them .

Raise the other side of the pole, once she's got that small cross bar. Then mix it up.

If she's happy on the ground do the same thing on board, BUT before you do do what my boy puck has suggested.

I would not be taking her out to compete until she can canter around higher courses then you will be competing on whilst remaining soft in your hand.

Does that make sense?

There are hundreds of exercises to do to fix this issue this is the best foundation I've found.
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Just wanted to point out, rushing jumps CAN be because a horse loves jumping. That was the case with my mare. She was definitely not afraid of anything, she just loves to go and would get extremely excited when she saw a jump.
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That is the biggest misconception, "my horse loves to jump" with rushing. I'll find the paper (we're talking evidence based research) on it.
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No expert by any means - but I also have a TB - way off the track. But, I have found that when I point him at an x rail, when I inadvertently tense up, read tighten my leg, he rushes, launches and canters away. When I can remember to relax, it's all good. It may be that you are anticipating the bad and reacting and bracing for it (ask me how I know this!)
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