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post #11 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:21 PM
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You need to buy a new horse if you want a jumper. A western pleasure horse isn't going to do the job. It would take a lot of retraining and it doesn't seem like you want to retrain, you want a horse that jumps now. So I would say sell her, do your homework, and buy a good jumper.
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post #12 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:28 PM
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While it is potentially possible to retrain her, it will take a lot of time and you will never have a really competitive animal. Either learn to ride western pleasure or get a new horse.
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post #13 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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I don't think any of you are actually reading what it said,

She said that her horse LIKES jumping but DOESN'T LIKE the pasture.

My cob is a lazy little cow in the arena, can't even get a good canter from her, rode her up to the jump and had to turn a circle because she cantered so fast up to it, she was so eager! She even turned to it without me asking x_x usually her ears are back but when we're jumping they're pricked right forward! However, she hasn't jumped in a while so we rarely get over the jump . Out on hacks she'll leap over anything.

Moral of the story- she won't jump in the arena but will on a hack, doesn't mean she doesn't like jumping, she just doesn't like the arena. Also, cobs aren't steriotypicaly jumpers, but mine has jumped over 3' :-D
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post #14 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:45 PM
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Dommycob, I'm willing to bet this mare doesn't care for jumping and that she's only doing as she's told (half heartedly obviously). She complaining that the mare lopes. This mare is BRED and TRAINED to lope, of course she's going to continue to do what is natural to her. They aren't bred nor built for the animated, quick movement like a jumper would be. A horse bred for pleasure is going to have a flat, slow gait. I'm sure it's possible for her to jump, but it's going to take training and this mare is probably never going to put her heart into jumping.
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post #15 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:53 PM
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And what makes you think that she enjoys western pleasure? Isn't she just merely doing as she's told then and loping because she thought that's what she was meant to do?

I'm pretty sure horses would rather be grazing in open fields than being ridden anyway
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post #16 of 20 Old 10-14-2013, 04:58 PM
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OP, I agree that you are likely out of luck there. You bought a horse that wasn't trained or suited to your desires and are now frustrated that she isn't "good enough" at something she's never done before.

Do you know exactly how she was trained? If she was trained for WP, then she may have a spur-stop, which means more leg tells her "go slower".

It might be possible for her to become a good jumper, but it will require lots of time and lots of money spent with a good trainer. Though if she's bred like many western horses to have low and flat gaits with very little leg movement or bend in their joints, then you may not ever get her to look good or be effective going over even small jumps.

My best advice? Consult with a good trainer who can observe and ride the horse and watch you ride and go from there. There's only so much we can assume from a few sentences posted on a website.
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I don't think any of you are actually reading what it said,
And it is also very possible that you don't understand how the world works out here. It is entirely possible that this mare is bred to the nines as a WP horse, years of careful selection go into producing horses who can lope slow, stay quiet and be a fantastic pleasure horse. To turn such a horse into a jumper is about as difficult as trying to get a top class show jumper to come down to a WP pace, it just wouldn't happen.

It really doesn't matter how the mare likes it, for 9 years she has been taught to go very very slowly and smoothly, to teach her something different will take a while.
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I don't think any of you are actually reading what it said,

She said that her horse LIKES jumping but DOESN'T LIKE the pasture.

My cob is a lazy little cow in the arena, can't even get a good canter from her, rode her up to the jump and had to turn a circle because she cantered so fast up to it, she was so eager! She even turned to it without me asking x_x usually her ears are back but when we're jumping they're pricked right forward! However, she hasn't jumped in a while so we rarely get over the jump . Out on hacks she'll leap over anything.

Moral of the story- she won't jump in the arena but will on a hack, doesn't mean she doesn't like jumping, she just doesn't like the arena. Also, cobs aren't steriotypicaly jumpers, but mine has jumped over 3' :-D
Good luck :-D
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I don't think you understand the problem she's facing- the horse drags it's feet over jumps. Horses that enjoy jumping and actually show in jumpers successfully don't just decide "I want to be lazy! Let's slump over this small jump and I won't even pick up my hind end!"

They jump. They jump well. They win.
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post #19 of 20 Old 10-15-2013, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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I went out today and rode her yet again in the pasture and we sucessfully jumped 2'6 no problem! I found out the lady who owned her before when she had shoes put on they were way to small!! So we had new well fitted ones put on and she's doing really well!!
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post #20 of 20 Old 10-15-2013, 09:46 PM
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She said horse was trained & ridden western classes primarily.Well western encompasses alot of different disciplines just not WP,don't remember reading that horse was WP bred either,AQHA have many different types in pedigree,not all are the low & slow types.Also what level at what level was she shown? How polished & engrained was this lope?Seems like Alot of assumptions being made about this horse ..... despite popular stereotypes yes AQHA horses can & do excel in jumping. Horse is learning something new & yes sounds slow is her primary language not to say that can't change once horse learns more & may find this is more fun.I say let the OP keep working with her,this is all still pretty new for her & you 2 together. If it continues to be a battle & her heart isn't in it,yes find a horse that is.
Remember my first horse ,I wanted to barrel race & pole bend on her. When I first broke her I had to carry a stick to get her to move,cantering was too much work. doing a trail course Or leisurely pleasure ride seemed more her speed. Well I pursued training her to the patterns anyway & before long she found her calling!! Made Honor role & world show qualified
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