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post #11 of 24 Old 06-23-2011, 03:02 PM
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We have two girls at our barn that do Trillium circuit at the 2'6" Open Hunter.

Trillium is below A's obviously.


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In 1983 with the help of the O.E F., and sponsorship from Segrams, the Trillium Circuit was created. It was set up to bridge the gap between schooling shows and the "A" circuit, and to offer exhibitors an inexpensive and viable alternative to pursue their horse interests. It was also intended as a training ground for new officials and course designers.

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post #12 of 24 Old 06-23-2011, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
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There is a tone more to a good jumper round that going like a speed demon and leaping over obstacles. Too many lower level jumpers seem to forget this point. Learning how to see your lines, balance your horse and adjust your tempo with finesse, which is required in the hunter ring, will serve you well in the jumper ring.
This is a very good point. That's not how I see jumpers but my horse wouldn't be able to keep a hunter form going around a course. A well ridden jumper course should still look smooth and easy from the spectator's perspective. I hate seeing riders go out with poorly trained horses, a low riding ability for that level, giant bits, three different gadgets to control the horse's head, giant spurs, a crop and a very bad, uncontrolled round. They may win for speed at that 2'9 level, if they manage to control their horse enough, but they'll never get past that level successfully.

As for the person saying hunters is super super easy, it's not. Just like dressage, it's supposed to look easy but there's a lot more to it than just a rider sitting on a well-trained horse. When a round looks smooth and perfect, it should be obvious that a good rider is on the horse's back. Just like when you see a flawless dressage round when a ride doesn't seem to move at all, the rider is doing much much more than one would think.
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post #13 of 24 Old 06-23-2011, 03:24 PM
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Yes, that is exactly the type of round I am talking about.

It is scary to watch and it is silly that people think that is how a jumper should go.
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post #14 of 24 Old 06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
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I have to agree. And who does 2'6" fences? FSH has obviously never been to a rated hunter show.
cough cough ... we do (sheepishly raise my hand) ... I am starting my 16h Anglo on 2', 2'3" fences this year. He was badly injuried in his left hind when kicked by a mean mare 2 yrs ago.

He only became mine b/c his last owner boarded with me and she knew he would never get back to 4' (so she claims he jumped) and he probably never go much higher and he's 15 now... we did Arg. Timed Jump course last weekend, not well either never made it to the 'jump off' portion. We're trying again this weekend but also do some hunter o/f courses. But those are still at the 2'3" level. Probably throw in a x-bar class to work on his straightness (and mine) .. these are not A rated classes but they're the next step up from "schooling" shows here in Sac.

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I do recall saying that I THINK hunters is boring. For me personally it is. I'm not dissing anyone who does it, but its not my preference I only see it as a building block. Why your upset over my preference I'm not quite sure. Hunters is a BIG market so clearly there's many people who prefer it and its very competitive. But as stated numerous times that were clealry missed, my opinion of it is that its too slow and boring for my personal taste but its a wonderful place to start young horses and riders so that's what I ise it for and that's it. Not I don't show in rated hunter shows because I don't stay in it to be competitive. I prefer eventint and jumpers so I move on to that as quickly as a young horse and rider can.
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I think its okay to go from dressage to jumpers, but if you were someone that just hacks around, I would say start with hunters.
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I have nothing against the lower level of hunters. Sorry it came off that way. Heck, I prefer the smaller fences myself.
My point was that while FSH was bashing the hunters she obviously knows squat about them if she thinks all they are is 2'-6" jumps.

Sorry that I was not clear in the point I was trying to make.
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alwaysbehind, I mention in my posts about the higher, more difficult hunters, like field hunters and I even said I wouldnt mind competiting in that but that its not something found in my area. In my area its uncommon for the fences to go above 2'9 in hunters, and even that's rare in most cases! Even the college teams don't compete over 2' in their shows! Again im not dissing anyone who competes in hunters, I simply said it wasnt my preference to do small courses at a slow speed that only get up to 2'6 in height. Field hunters on turf footing with big fences made from hedges, gates, walls, etc is more appealing to me than handy hunter classes that are usually the extint of showing hunters here.

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I have been told, in its simplest terms, that Hunter's is up to 4 feet. And Jumpers is 4 feet and up. Is this true?

If so, Hunters is good for those who don't wish to jump that high. Like me!

I ride Hunter's. Currently Limit to novice (2'0 to 2'3) and have a goal to ride in the Low adults by the end of summer (2'6). I like the smooth constructed and "automatic" look. I think its pretty. Some people like the speed and height of Jumpers. I think its preference, you could really start where you are comfortable.
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We have jumpers starting at .80 or 2'9"max height. Hunters go up to 4' here.
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