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  • Horse taking off early the jump
  • Trotting fences horse leaves too early

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    07-22-2009, 08:41 AM
Taking off Long and Jumping Huge

The way Brewer jumps little x's you'd thing he was in the Olympics. He literally takes off as much as one canter stride early, or like 2 trot strides. Its really annoying and I don't know how to make him stop.
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    07-22-2009, 09:02 AM
Originally Posted by kathryn    
The way Brewer jumps little x's you'd thing he was in the Olympics. He literally takes off as much as one canter stride early, or like 2 trot strides. Its really annoying and I don't know how to make him stop.

Try going back to trotting poles. Then once he is going over those nicely put the last up to a tiny cross.
If he is only learning you will need to ride him into it . Pace it yourself try to keep him going steady until the point you think he should take off . Give him a little sqeeze and push him forward a little bit. If he's only learning its up to you to teach him to take off correctly. Maybe a jumping instructer would be best . Even if its 1 lesson a month they will be able to see & tell you what things to work on.
    07-22-2009, 10:21 AM
Ask yourself what it is that you are doing incorrectly. If you go to my thread "What horses see when jumping" you'll understand that when errors occur, that it is 99% rider fault.

Are you dropping your shoulders? Are you supporting him, lifting his back up into your seat, using your seat to drive forward, keeping your legs around his girth, using your hands to keep him up and off of his forehand? Are you riding him to the base correctly? Are you dropping him? Are you looking down at the fence? Are you approaching the fence in a rhythmic steady tempo?

Your job is to get him to the base of the fence correctly, his job is the rest. Sounds like you aren't doing your part accordingly.

Every little thing you do, reflects on the horse.
    07-22-2009, 11:33 AM
I agree with MIEventer. SO many riders (I used to do it as well, still do sometimes) "abandon" their horse right before the jump, which can make the horse leave too early because now he has to make the decisions all for himself. Now if you have a babysitter of a horse, then sometimes this isn't a deal and the horse will save it's rider by leaving at the correct distance but most of the time this is not the case. You need to be there to support your horse and help him realize the correct distance. This is one of the tricky things with jumping and it takes a while. Like I said, I still do it sometimes.

Have you tried setting up a ground pole a stride before the fence? This could help both of you really concentrate on getting that good take-off distance. Just an idea.
    07-22-2009, 06:38 PM
Ok so more info. The more warmed up he gets the better he gets, like by the fifth or sixth time jumping, just in general not a specific jump like any jumps at all, he is doing better and will even do it at a canter. When I do it, I don't know if this is right but its how I do it, feedback appreciated on this too, is I'll get him warmed up with flatwork then start off trotting single fences. Once he seems warmed up over fences and is finding his distance, I'll try a few cantered and see how he does with those. Once he's got those I might do a small line. And then by now he's probably tired so I'll cool him down.

So I am consious of the staying with him until the jump, but the one time I tried really hard, I was connected to his mouth, and I was firm with my legs, the only thing that happened was I got severely left behind when he jumped from a stride away.

So even if it is my fault, what can I do to make this better?
    07-22-2009, 06:54 PM
I agree with what others have said about abandoning your horse a few strides out. There's a big difference between leaving him on his own and still riding but staying out of his way. A good trainer should be able to point out which you're doing.

I've found that if I apply a balancing half halt about 2 strides out, it allows my horse to fit in an extra stride instead of leaving long. Just make sure you're in an upright position when approaching the fence and not leaning over his shoulders. If you're hunched over him, he'll have no choice but to leave long or stop altogether once the fences get bigger.

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