Is there any hope for this sloppy looking jumper?

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    07-03-2009, 06:46 PM
Is there any hope for this sloppy looking jumper?

Hey guys,
I'm going out to look at a pony jumper tomorrow, and she seems athletic enough for what I want, but her jumping form isn't that pretty. She doesn't seem to be using her back which can be fixed, but what was worrying me were her knees- they seem to be pointing more down than level. The owner didn't have any conformation shots so I couldn't tell if it was her shoulder or she just needed some serious grid work. Suggestions?
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    07-03-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm no jumping authority, but I'm not seeing any terribly dramatic deviation from level. How experienced is she? The slight downward angle could just be greenness. She's gorgeous, by the way. Love those soft eyes, and I'm a sucker for large ponies.

My question is about the pic second from the bottom in your list of links. It doesn't look like the same horse to me. One hind leg seems to have a white marking showing under the boot, and every other shot she has dark legs in back. It doesn't look like there's a blaze, either, only a star, but that pic is pretty little. The overall build looks different, too. Are there 2 different horses here? Or am I seeing things?
    07-03-2009, 07:21 PM
She's 6, so the green-ness thing is probably legit. I also mentioned grids in my last post because it sounded to me like her owner, (who took her on as a project while her horse was out of commission or something) just had a lot of fun jumping her around courses at home and at schooling shows. I really don't think that she's had much gymnastics, which I was hoping would explain her knees and not something like conformation.

And I have no idea if the horse in the 2nd to last picture is her or not. I just snagged it off of the barn's website assuming it was her from the jumping style, but now that you pointed that out about her markings I'm not too sure. The original picture was very pixel-y, so it could have distorted her markings too... but that actually looks more like a horse than a pony haha... oops...
    07-03-2009, 07:32 PM
I don't actually see anything wrong , she might just be a little green.
You can see a difference between the first and last pictures - the height of the jumps are different, she may just be one of those horses that can't be bothered with smaller jumps so she looks a lot better over the bigger fences.

Shoulder angle looks to be ok to me - you can see she has a nice slope in the first picture

Looks like a nice jumping pony , nice and alert over the fence and looks like she knows what she's doing.
    07-03-2009, 07:32 PM
At 6, I think with more concentrated training, grids, and gymnastics, she would clean up a lot. The worst front legs of the pics you posted, IMHO, were on the second to last one, so if that's not really her I think you're in the clear, lol.

A confo pic would be better, but I personally see a lot of potential in a pretty little package.
    07-03-2009, 08:57 PM
I agree with Nutty - even George Morris talks allot about how incorrect it is for riders to school their horses over low grids, they don't teach the horse anything in aspects of tucking properly. He stressed schooling over bigger fences because they encourage the horse to round and tuck.
    07-03-2009, 09:21 PM
Thanks guys. My trainer saw some of the pictures of her and wasn't that impressed, but I'm not looking to do hunters or anything with her- efficiency is a priority for me. Now I can go see her without a bias coming in.

Are there any combinations that I should try while I'm testing her out?
    07-04-2009, 01:33 AM
I wouldnt be concerned myself for the same reasons the others have said - my horse wont pick up her feet more than she has to for anything under 3 ft - why - cause she doesnt have to I guess....

Can you get your instructor to go with you - they may feel differently when they see her in person and they will also be able to give you some combos to try out based on how the horse is going?
    07-04-2009, 11:20 PM
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