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        08-12-2010, 02:55 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    There's actually a range, from toes forward up to 45 degrees out, depending on your leg structure, size/shape of the horse's barrel, etc. Any more then 45 degrees and you're in danger of riding with your heels in your horse's side off the back of your calf. That's bad because 1) you'll constantly be driving your horse forward and 2) your leg will not be as secure as it could be. I will often remind my kids "toes forward" because it gets a better response then "put your toe closer to a 45 degree angle..." They also get the "why your leg goes in that particular position" lecture quite a bit so they understand that there's more to it then just "toes forward".

    NJ- it's not necessarily a "toe" issue, as it is an entire leg issue. If your toes are out, your entire leg is most likely not in the best place. There is a particular position where you will be the most balanced and secure, while being in a place to use your body the most effectively. For a few people it is physically impossible, For some it's physically really difficult, for lots it's completely unnatural, but can be taught. I used to have the habit of riding off the back of my calf. I was pretty good at it. Pretty secure and got a decent response from my horses. It felt horrid to change my leg, but the trainer I was working with made me. After lots and LOTS of work, my leg is in a better place and it's even more secure then it used to be.
         
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        10-03-2010, 07:51 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Id say toes right forwrd isnt rreally nesscesary.. that's more dressage... I know I don't...
         
        10-03-2010, 11:11 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trIplEcrOwngIrl    
    My instructor told me to do this today when jumping, she said that it was so you can stay up over the jumps and use your thigh muscles.
    You should really be balancing your weight through your stirrups not your knees or thighs.

    With your toes... I agree with Gypsygirl
         
        10-08-2010, 03:11 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    I used to be told to ride with my toes out, idk if it was some kind of fad that is being looked down upon, but I went to another trainer down the line and they made me keep my toes forward. It was really hard, and even painful at first, but now it is natural for me, and I feel as though my leg is more secure over fences. Its easier if you keep the outside branch of your stirrup forward, and the inside branch back. My toes arent perfectly forward, but more of the 45 degree angle everyone is talking about.

    Heres the stirrup position I was talking about: http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com...my-picture.jpg
         
        10-08-2010, 05:38 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shalani    
    You should really be balancing your weight through your stirrups not your knees or thighs.
    If you're using an auto release then yes your weight is carried by your thighs. It's a similar position to doing squats.
         
        11-12-2010, 11:45 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Having your toes out is a sign of good equitation. It keeps your calves at the right place when you grip your horse over the jump and just hacking in general.
         

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