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What am I doing wrong?

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  • I know i am doing wrong but also doing wrong why?
  • What am i doing diffently

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    03-29-2012, 07:40 AM
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Weanling
What am I doing wrong?

Ok. So, I am home for Easter after 8 weeks away at uni. My horse has been kept fit for me while I was away, and I came back ready to get on with our training, aiming for a ODE midway through April. His dressage is looking good, he's working in a double bridle now and it's really letting me ask more of him in a more subtle way.

However, we're having a few little issues in the jumping. He is quite fussy when jumping, and likes to do things his own way without me interfering too much. Therefore, when I'm doing something wrong, he gets very strong and tries to wrest control away from me over fences - and he's fairly sensitive to when I'm doing something wrong (typical TB). It's something that happens occasionally, and I'm glad he does it for when we're out and about, as it's saved my ass a few times, and he's been doing this long enough to know what he's doing and judge his own strides.

Since I've come back this holidays though, it hasn't been an occasional thing. Whenever I put my stirrups up to umping length, even if we're just doing pole work, he races off from underneath me. I can jump him with no stirrups and he's perfect, but for some reason when my stirrups go up I'm doing something weird. I even tried jumping him just in a snaffle one day, to see if I was maybe being too strong with the double, but he was worse (and to be fair, he has quite a soft mouth, so he would have been making a fuss with his head and running out if I was being too strong, and I know I ride him with nice light hands). So it's not that's he's in too strong a bit.

Also, I've been doing cross country jumps out in the woods when hacking, and he jumps them perfectly fine. So what am I doing differently in the school? It's not my jumping position, because if I hold that position whilst cantering round and into the jump, he is perfectly fine. It's something in my seat whilst I'm riding into the jump.

Any suggestions as to what to try to isolate what I'm doing wrong? My instructor first thought it might be my ankles, as they're fairly weak, but when I can do no-stirrup and jumping position jumping with no issues, she's not 100% sure what to do with me. Any suggestions?

(I have no pics/video atm because my lovely horse threw my jacket on the ground and stood on my camera, so not ideal I know, but any suggestions of things to try would be much appreciated!)
     
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    03-30-2012, 09:42 AM
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Weanling
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    04-01-2012, 01:29 PM
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Foal
Perhaps you are driving too much with your seat unintentionally? It would make sense that he would be fine in your jumping position and not when you sit into a jump if that is the case. Also without stirrups you may be supporting yourself more with your leg in a way you arent with short stirrups and weak ankles. Try sitting in a half seat, slightly out of the saddle but having a little bit of connection in the saddle. It sounds like he thinks you are driving him forward with your seat and is either genuinely trying to give you what he thinks you want or trying to run away from it. How is he during flatwork with short stirrups at the canter?
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    04-01-2012, 04:08 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by Emerson    
Perhaps you are driving too much with your seat unintentionally? It would make sense that he would be fine in your jumping position and not when you sit into a jump if that is the case. Also without stirrups you may be supporting yourself more with your leg in a way you arent with short stirrups and weak ankles. Try sitting in a half seat, slightly out of the saddle but having a little bit of connection in the saddle. It sounds like he thinks you are driving him forward with your seat and is either genuinely trying to give you what he thinks you want or trying to run away from it. How is he during flatwork with short stirrups at the canter?
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Sounds like you could be right... he definitely is more forward on the flat when I'm working in short stirrups, and whilst not nearly to the degree he's been doing it whilst jumping, that backs up what you're saying. The half-seat suggestion is a very good one, will give it a try and see if I can stop driving him... would definitely make sense, he is very sensitive so I may well be driving him without realising it! Thanks for the feedback, I was really struggling to sit back and spot what was going on!
     
    04-01-2012, 04:19 PM
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Foal
Glad I could help! I had the same problem, my horse was so forward and I realized the more I tried to hold him back, the more I was actually sitting deeper and thus driving him forwards with my seat! Talk about mixed signals! :) good luck!
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