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    12-23-2009, 11:01 PM
  #21
Yearling
I agree with the post above ^. It's pretty much impossible to make generalizations like this in anything horse-related, including riding. I don't think it's a great idea for most people, but you can't just say "no one should jump before they canter" (I know no one's saying it like that) because you have to tailor each and every riding-related experience to that particular horse and rider. It's like saying unless you've been riding for 6 months and can trot with no stirrups, you shouldn't be cantering. It just depends on the person, and it's up to their instructor to decide what's best for them. To sum up this long post, I don't think it's a great idea for most riders, but I can see how in some cases it could be beneficial :).
     
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    12-23-2009, 11:21 PM
  #22
Foal
I've heard of alot of people jumping before cantering & think its absolutely nuts.I did 2 1/2 years of flat before being able to jump & all we worked on was normal w/t/c, no stirrup work at all 3 gaits, trotting/cantering poles & all our positions & such & we had to be quite good at all.Every lesson we still work on our positions on those, to warmup our ponies & keep having nice positions, just not nearly as much because we need time for jumping too.I'd say we have about half an hour of flat work & then move on to jumping, which I think is good so we keep up on both.
     
    12-24-2009, 12:30 AM
  #23
Weanling
I THINK YoU SHOULD LEARN TO W/T/C BEFORE EVEN TOUCHING A JUMP!!! I just jumped for the first time today!!! Soo worth a year of flatwork!!!!!
     
    12-24-2009, 12:31 AM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kaykat31    
I've heard of alot of people jumping before cantering & think its absolutely nuts.I did 2 1/2 years of flat before being able to jump & all we worked on was normal w/t/c, no stirrup work at all 3 gaits, trotting/cantering poles & all our positions & such & we had to be quite good at all.Every lesson we still work on our positions on those, to warmup our ponies & keep having nice positions, just not nearly as much because we need time for jumping too.I'd say we have about half an hour of flat work & then move on to jumping, which I think is good so we keep up on both.
Same with me I agree soo much!
     
    12-24-2009, 10:12 AM
  #25
Weanling
I rode for 4 years before I started really jumping. I did ground poles and 8inch before that. Well I think on my third year I jumped a horse named Ginger. She was talented and could easily clear 2ft if she had the confidence. I only jumped a 2ft crossrail with her so in the middle it was a foot. I don't think you need to "master" flatwork b/c I know that on my third year I didnt master flatwork. You have good and bad days. Just b/c you get blue ribbons doesnt mean you mastered it.
     
    12-24-2009, 12:03 PM
  #26
Foal
I also agree thatit depends on the rider. Both me and my sister jumped little stuff before we mastered all three gaits. Acctually I found it very beneficial. I think it helped me be more confident and when I finally did get to jump 2ft for the first time it was no big deal. My instructer is very respected in my area so I trusted her completely. I think everyone should respect the trainers judgement. The are the professionals and they know what they are doing. If they want to let you pop over baby fences by all means let them. I think it ultimatly helps confidence levels. This is my opinion so please don't judge me. Jumping small stuff also helped me balance at the canter. I would trot up to really small crossrails and verticles and canter off around the ring afterwards. It helped me gain balance without having me worry about first getting the horse to canter and then concentrating on keeping it. The horse would just canter off and I would simply need to concentrate on my position and balance. Now I can canter around the ring like a pro without becoming wobbly. And even better yet I have no doubts when approaching a jump, I just go with the flow because I have been doing it since the begining.
     
    12-24-2009, 01:04 PM
  #27
Green Broke
I was reading the COTH forum one day (you know where a lot of the top riders/trainers in country tend to post) and I was shocked when I heard that some people taught jumping before cantering. In fact, someone said that they thought teaching jumping was a great way to teach cantering! (WHAT?!) Personally, I just don't see how that works. How in the world do you have a secure enough seat/leg to go over a jump if you can't even canter yet? How do you not hit your horse in the mouth and back? I don't get it. I don't do it. I done recommend it. I very rarely think there are black and whites when it comes to horses and training but this is one that I don't plan on ever doing.
     
    12-24-2009, 02:14 PM
  #28
Weanling
I thought I'd add that it also depends on the age and physical condition of the rider. My belief is that children twelve and under aren't physically (or mentally) ready to jump. At that age, you should be focused on having fun, but also on teaching boundries and respect. It's easier to teach them such things at that age than when they're older.

Also, a side note, but did you know that the NCCP course explains that children under twelve shouldn't be doing work with no stirrups?
     
    12-25-2009, 02:59 PM
  #29
Weanling
Each to their own - I don't think they should learn to JUMP before they canter - however I have no problem with pole work etc before they are jumping to keep things interesting....

In saying that often how a beginner defines jumping confuses people... I've heard people say they have had a jumping lesson today and what they actually did was pole work (Poles were like 2 inches off the ground) but they were so excited can you really burst their bubble



HAHA I leant to jump before I cantered - we used to drag logs and all sorts of stuff along this track and grab the manes and go... (Actually the horse would sometimes break into canter so perhaps I should say mastered the canter) usually bareback in a halter... gosh back in the day sighhhh
     
    12-27-2009, 02:26 PM
  #30
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
My belief is that children twelve and under aren't physically (or mentally) ready to jump.

While some may not be, some of the top junior riders in the country are under 12. In fact, I believe that 12 is the age LIMIT for anyone showing in the small ponies. Heard of Lillie Keenan? Placed top 10 at the Maclays this year, swept most of the championships at Pony Finals, etc, at 11 years old. Had the pleasure of watching her last month, incredible rider.
     

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