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        04-05-2010, 09:10 PM
      #111
    Trained
    Great post Puck!
         
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        04-05-2010, 10:49 PM
      #112
    Green Broke
    But you are also leaving out that you are supposed to ride XC in a galloping seat. Up out of the tack, letting the horse use themselves. Rock back into half seat on the aproch to a fly fence, land in galloping position, away. You sit going to tougher jumps (banks, complexes, ect.) but the most of the time you stay in galloping seat. My trainer doesn't let me sit at all while we school jumping except we do banks. You have to learn to drive up without your seat in contact with the saddle. If you watch riders at Rolex or the Olympics, you see them rarely touch the saddle with their bums.
         
        04-05-2010, 11:13 PM
      #113
    Trained
    I should have clarified. She yelled at me for sitting for stadium jumping. I never made it to an XC course with her since I didn't agree with her way of thinking.

    To the OP - The correct jumping position is the one that works for the situation.
         
        04-06-2010, 01:06 PM
      #114
    Green Broke
    Yeah, we're allowed to sit a little in stadium, but she does want us up out of the saddle. Personally, I ride up in half seat because my body responds faster when I'm there than sitting.
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        04-06-2010, 01:32 PM
      #115
    Green Broke
    All of the clinicians and trainers I've worked with have all said for XC, out of your seat basically all the time. For stadium, sit if it's comfortable for the horse. If the horse is naturally brave, maybe be more out of the seat but if you need to give them a bit of a driving push, be in your seat before the jump.
         
        04-06-2010, 07:37 PM
      #116
    Trained
    Yeah, Puck's currently a dirty stopper, so mommy had to learn how to sit deep and drive.
         
        04-06-2010, 09:32 PM
      #117
    Green Broke
    Geof works better when I'm up off his back, and that engages my leg more, so that's what I do. I only jump up in half seat mostly.....
         
        04-06-2010, 09:50 PM
      #118
    Trained
    I was going to say - but you all already clarified the point I was going to make...which was *you don't think you got off that easily eh?*

    As Ian Millar taught me years ago


    A good rider conforms to their horse
    A poor rider makes their horse conform to them

    SOooOOOOo - you ride in whatever seat your horse needs you to ride in. Not every horse can get to a fence with a 2 point seat. Some horses need that full seat to get them to that fence. Some horses get cut in half when you use a full seat, so you use a 3 point seat. And so on and so on.

    Every horse needs a different seat from the other, not every horse is the same.

    I've ridden horses where you have to sit deep 5 strides from the fence to get them over it. Other horses, like Nelson, only need a 3 point seat and if I go into a full seat, I cut him in 1/2.

    Every horse has different needs. Just because someone gets away with riding in a 2 point seat throughout a whole CC course, doesn't mean the next will.

    That is what makes a good rider, one who can swap from seat to seat to accomodate each horse, each ride, each approach to each fence.
         
        04-07-2010, 06:56 PM
      #119
    Green Broke
    I would KILL to train under Ian Miller!!!!!!!!!!!!!
         
        04-07-2010, 11:38 PM
      #120
    Trained
    I used to event on my pony, Wildey. He was a funny one - I had to be there supporting him 110% to every showjump (Stadium fence? We don't call it stadium in Australia) or he would stop. Drop a hand, relax your core, he would stop. No matter how well set up, how perfect the striding, if you weren't there with him he just wouldn't.

    Get him out on CC? You could throw the reins away and bounce along like a noob and he would get you through the toughest combinations. He would self regulate, he would think, it was just amazing.

    Then my other event horse, Vodka - He was the opposite. He was a very highly strung and individual boy, with talent up the woozah. In SJ, he would just rock back into this amazing canter and jump the round like he had been studying it his whole life.

    Out on CC, I had to drive for all I was worth up into my hands to shorten him so he would sit back and think about the jump. But boy that horse could jump.

    I guess my point is that all of this is different depending on what horse you are on. There are horses out there who would get you around a course no matter what position you are in - And there are horses out there who need that support 100%.
         

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