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post #11 of 120 Old 02-17-2010, 01:33 PM
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I highly suggest you start reading George Morris and his critique columns in the Practicle Horseman Magazine, and look into his books.

There is alot involved.
I also recommend the book "Form Over Fences" by Jane M. Dillon. It's and old book but all the foundation is there.

ETA: I agree with you Upnover.... there are awful examples in all disciplines. Most of the eventers I've seen in the jumper classes at the regional shows make me cringe, more so then most hunter rounds. But then again everything at the lower levels is compounded and bad usually.

Gordon Wright once told a student to take up swimming because he would never be a good rider, that rider was George Morris.

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I'll second GM. Get his book Hunter Seat Equitation - it's a classic for a reason. My copy is falling apart and full of highlighted areas and little notes, haha!

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ETA: I agree with you Upnover.... there are awful examples in all disciplines. Most of the eventers I've seen in the jumper classes at the regional shows make me cringe, more so then most hunter rounds. But then again everything at the lower levels is compounded and bad usually.
There's a difference though - most aren't taught educatedly and most just point and shoot at low level Eventing. Where Hunters, are taught to perch, taught to ride the way they do, because it wins in the show ring. It is a trend.

Difference between being taught to do it, and doing it because they don't know any better.

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There's a difference though - most aren't taught educatedly and most just point and shoot at low level Eventing. Where Hunters, are taught to perch, taught to ride the way they do, because it wins in the show ring. It is a trend.

Difference between being taught to do it, and doing it because they don't know any better.
Those are both generalizations. I was never taught to perch. ;)

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You may not of been taught, but many have and many still continue to be taught today. Even GM rants about it in his columns. :)

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Of course not ALL hunter riders perch. However, it is being taught more and more. Anyone who watches the Medal McClay finals will see good effective riders who still manage to look nice. I event, but I often have decent equitation, even though I've never participated in hunters.

One of my pet peeves is to see better riders still using beginner crest releases. Does anyone teach better riders to follow their horses mouths anymore without hurting them? I will sometimes use crest releases on various XC fences, but usually not in SJ.

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post #17 of 120 Old 02-21-2010, 01:12 PM
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I think were getting off topic here guys. Discussing what displine is taught to perch is not going to help the OP. So lets leave it at SOME people in ANY discilpline do perch, which isnt the proper jumping position.
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post #18 of 120 Old 03-27-2010, 08:45 PM
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This is my idea of perfect. Besides her doing a bit of a tiny release *hides in bushes in case you consider it a hunter position*


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The way Pinto Pony (the user on here) rides. THAT is darn near perfect.

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post #20 of 120 Old 03-28-2010, 05:03 PM
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So true Drew!!!!

Jordan- that picture shows anything but perfect. The rider is way ahead of the motion, which is a big problem.

Eventers might look "terifying" because they arn't in the perfect position. Unless they are riding unsafly, I don't look at position much. Functionality is the most important thing. BUT you must learn a good position before you can learn to be functional.

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