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post #1 of 23 Old 12-29-2013, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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Why no crops?

NBC Sports Network is showing show jumping. Not a single rider is carrying a crop. What's up with that?

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Huh, normally you don't see them without one. New trend maybe?

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Is riding with one a thing? I don't usually jump with one, I don't understand?

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When I did a clinic with Ernest Dillon, he about had a cow that I wasn't riding with a crop, my horse never lacked the forward part, but he said you should always have it. So you don't need it and don't have it. Seems like a lot of show jumpers, especially higher level ones have the same philosophy.

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When I did a clinic with Ernest Dillon, he about had a cow that I wasn't riding with a crop, my horse never lacked the forward part, but he said you should always have it. So you don't need it and don't have it. Seems like a lot of show jumpers, especially higher level ones have the same philosophy.
Hm, I never thought of it that way ... I might pick it up come spring

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I don't know but show jumping horses as far as I know are broken and ridden away to be responisve horses that are sharp off the leg so they wouldn't really need one. And what if an awkward landing or take off left the stick in an awkward position and they had lost their contact a bit. It would be hard to gather both up and collect yourself in preparation for the next jump in time. I'm really not sure but those are the first things that would come to my mind.
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I don't know but show jumping horses as far as I know are broken and ridden away to be responisve horses that are sharp off the leg so they wouldn't really need one. And what if an awkward landing or take off left the stick in an awkward position and they had lost their contact a bit. It would be hard to gather both up and collect yourself in preparation for the next jump in time. I'm really not sure but those are the first things that would come to my mind.
A lot of them get caught up in the moment, if you look a lot of upper level jumpers have some pretty gnarly bits on, some even with bits and a hackamore. And riders riding at that level would have no problem collecting themselves while carrying a crop, I doubt they notice it much. They also need it, because if a horse isn't as responsive off their leg in even one part of the course it can make a huge difference, and not in a good way.
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Just thought it was standard equipment for the discipline. I don't know much about jumpers, which is why I asked.
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But taking your hands off the rein even for that spilt second to give a tap to get that impulsion can also make a big difference. I have also seen riders jumping who in the speed of the round did not have a chance to recollect their reins (the horse was tanking in this case) and if they had a stick things would have got messy. And going down a tripple on a young horse who you need to mind and hold together would not fare well from the loose reins that could have been dropped after a tricky turn/landing let alone a stick waving around the place. The riders in my mind often have enough in their hands with the horse with out adding a stick to the equation. And alot of the horses at the highest level of any discipline are nutters. The sight of a stick could drive them up the wall and if the rider dropped it and it brushed against their legs... you'ld be gone.
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Well I learned something new today. I was the GM clinic in Wellington online every year and he's such a stickler about the use of crop and spurs that I never considered they were not used while showing. I did notice most of these horses were jumping what was in front of them no matter what, and it did come down to effective riding between the fences to get the proper balance and stride.

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