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post #11 of 23 Old 12-29-2013, 07:49 PM
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I think it was GM that said that riding without a crop is like going to war without a firearm. That being said, i ride jumpers and always carry a crop. I think in the 2 years i've had my jumper, i've had to use it maybe... three times. But I am always glad that i have it in my hand when the time comes. I have even simply waved it around in his view to get his attention back on me, when we're on course. He straightens right up. haha!
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post #12 of 23 Old 12-30-2013, 05:09 AM
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And alot of the horses at the highest level of any discipline are nutters.

That's a very broad generalization to make, and I disagree 100%.
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post #13 of 23 Old 12-30-2013, 04:33 PM
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I myself pretty much ALWAYS ride with a stick. What I said was just trying to think of a reason why they dont. Don't know if I said it but mabey it could be just as simple as they don't feel they need it that they can control the horse fine with out it.

CandyCanes tell me how many top top class horses do you know that were not sharp/quirkey?
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post #14 of 23 Old 12-30-2013, 06:28 PM
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I think it was GM that said that riding without a crop is like going to war without a firearm.
What a stupid comment. Everything I have seen/heard about GM makes me think he's an ass. I don't know what people see in him.
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post #15 of 23 Old 12-30-2013, 06:36 PM
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I happened to turn on the TV looking for the news right at about the end and saw a German equestrian jumping with a crop. (I don't remember his name, not too familiar with the jumping/show circuit) Didn't see him need to use it, and the horse did very well!
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post #16 of 23 Old 12-30-2013, 06:39 PM
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Carrying a crop all depends on the horse you are riding. Some horses never need a crop and others need it once in a blue moon. Top riders tend to know their mounts pretty well, so they know if they need to carry a crop with a particular horse. There is not an expectation to carry one what so ever. Also, every horse is an individual. You'd be surprised to learn how many of those top horses are not as nutty as they seem.
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post #17 of 23 Old 12-31-2013, 08:22 AM
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Carrying a crop all depends on the horse you are riding. Some horses never need a crop and others need it once in a blue moon. Top riders tend to know their mounts pretty well, so they know if they need to carry a crop with a particular horse. There is not an expectation to carry one what so ever. Also, every horse is an individual. You'd be surprised to learn how many of those top horses are not as nutty as they seem.

I agree with this and more. It might even depend on how the horse feels that day, the environment, conditions, a particular round, etc.

Steve Guerdat won the Geneva Grand Prix that was televised on NBC the other day and also won the Individual Gold Medal for Show Jumping at the London Olympics, on the same horse. At Geneva he did not carry a crop. For the Olympics, he did carry a crop.
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post #18 of 23 Old 12-31-2013, 08:51 AM
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I'm wondering if carrying a crop is directly related to the pressure to win and large purses. Many times I've seen riders beat the horse for refusing a jump, then nearly rip the horse's mouth as it tries to escape the pain.
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post #19 of 23 Old 12-31-2013, 07:58 PM
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I agree Saddlebag. Sometimes I think the owners put a lot of pressure on the riders as well to give an outstanding performance every ride. Even top horses have their off days and its always disappointing to see a rider go overboard on disciplining their mounts due to the pressure they are under.

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post #20 of 23 Old 01-02-2014, 12:11 PM
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Ive never used a crop or spurs. It's only because my horse doesn't need it.

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