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        07-14-2014, 04:57 PM
      #11
    Foal
    This totally depends on how high you want to take her.

    I'm not there to see how well she does. You should bring her back over 18" and look at her form. If she is holding herself higher at the knees you could go higher. She would probably do fine up to 2ft jumps. Adjust her form with jumping if need be. Start her out slow not to over do it.

    Not every horse is made for jumping but I see some who do jump and it's rather surprising. I had a Clydesdale x Thoroughbred mare who was amazing even though she was sooo hefty. And if you start her out slow, you should catch on and realize if she is made for it.

    Btw, she looks like an Appendix or a Quarter Horse cross of some sort!

    Best of luck to you and your girl! She is adorable.
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        07-14-2014, 05:07 PM
      #12
    Foal
    She was supposedly broke to drive. I really thing she is a classic case of poor Amish trainers myself. She's not bad. Just doesn't know any better.

    On the topic of form, that's why I want to free jump her a few times. It can be hard to tell how well she tucks her legs from on board!
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        07-14-2014, 05:38 PM
      #13
    Showing
    I think with some re-training, she'll do well for you. She really is a very pretty little horse and if she enjoys jumping, then she'll strive to please you.

    I've found that a combination of negative and positive reinforcement works best with many horses. Correct anything she does wrong, but when she does something right, praise the heck out of her. They generally pick up pretty quickly what is good and they want to do it better.

    One thing to remember though is that driving training is basically completely different than riding training. While both do use the reins to direct the head, driven horses usually have no idea what your legs mean because they (the ones trained correctly anyway) get those cues via voice and whip instead.
         
        07-14-2014, 05:49 PM
      #14
    Foal
    She really probably was a bad case of it. I know you said you are, and I say good call, on treating her green.

    That is what I meant was try and get her to free jump, even though I didn't make that very clear. XD

    Teach her what your knees mean, and as stated above, praise her on EVERYTHING she does correctly. Like, even when she gets the hang of what you are teaching her, praise praise praise.
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        07-14-2014, 06:49 PM
      #15
    Foal
    You're right there! Initially she was 100% voice cued. With a lot of work last summer and fall I know have her listening to seat cues at the walk and trot. I accomplished this by using seat cues in accompaniment to voice cues until she associated them to mean the same thing. Then I slowly weaned of the voice cues. Our biggest issues now are the fact that I like my horses to be very light on the bit and have contact. Right now we are working on getting her to pick up contact and move forward while still listening to my seat. Sometimes I think she gets in the mindset that she's pulling a cart and you really have to remind her that she's not.
    Our other issue is that she thinks that canter+humans=BAD BAD BAD. She'll just freeze up when you push for it. She'll do it at liberty all day long, but once you put that halter on she's all walk and trot. I'm sure she was trained not to canter because you want your driving horse to trot.
    My plan there really is just to put her on the lunge and really drive her up past the trot. The minute I see a canter beat, drop all pressure. Wash, rinse, and repeat until she learns that canter isn't bad and I can get her to hold gait witout freezing. Then I'll put her under saddle at the canter.
    I currently ride her in a fairly thick egg butt snaffle and simple bridle. And since she's responsive on it, I plan to leave it that way.
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        08-15-2014, 01:40 PM
      #16
    Foal
    I wouldn't try it until her basics are fully complete. Jumping, in my opinion, is a bonus to all of riding. Once your horse can walk/trot/canter without being a booger, and can hold up a couple laps of trot/canter.
    Her back legs look like they need to be built up to jump anything so I would say just do ALOT of trotting and do some pole work after you have that down and try a couple crossrails.
    Take your time. All you have is time right now, so slowly work her up to it and heck, she could be doing 3' when you're done.
    Every horse has potential, just make sure you have the "Okay" by a vet and farrier.
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    I went through this with my App too btw. Make it fun, and you will have a great bond and have a fun ride every time.
    Don't push her too hard (:
         

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