Your jumping expertise is needed :D - The Horse Forum
  • 2 Post By kcscott85
  • 2 Post By dawnhanbury
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 Old 10-30-2012, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3
• Horses: 0
Your jumping expertise is needed :D

Hi Everyone

Have being visting the site for some time and finally decided to register today I guess I better give you some background currently im reducating a lovely 7 yr old ponyto jump. We have being at this for 3 mnths or more and have ran into a small issue of refusing. The problem is that shes starting to refuse the jump by stopping in front of the jump my reaction to this is to calmy do the jump again.

Thinking I was doing something wrong today a good friend of mine to ride her and see what happens (shes taught a 4 year old to jump this year) but susprisingly the same thing happened the pony stopped . My friend showed me this technique of wrapping my legs around the ponies belly instead of giving lil squeezes (which is what i do) when approaching the jump. My instructor has advsied that i only apply the leg aid if i feel hestitating which you dont because its at the last min she stops. Im just wondering if anyone has had simlar issues or any tips people may have. I know we can do it because when she jumps shes superb and absolute dream to ride

Please note: i have had the pony vetted, had her back and teeth checked. The saddle and briddle are not ill fitting.


Last edited by dawnhanbury; 10-30-2012 at 02:27 PM.
dawnhanbury is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 7 Old 10-31-2012, 12:15 AM
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 244
• Horses: 1
My horse Jester went through a short phase of go, go, go...nevermind. By now, it's probably habit with her and it's up to you to break that habit. You know she's going to refuse so keep your leg on, don't wait for her to stop. Jester is a very lazy horse and gets way behind my leg if I don't keep at it. I keep my legs wrapped around him, and give squeezes on the approach. Otherwise he has a tendency to suck back and either launch himself over or stop. I know he's going to do it, so I don't give him a chance by keeping my leg on him.

Make it very uncomfortable for her to refuse a jump. If she refuses, either have her take it from a standstill or back her up (don't circle or go around the jump), just back her a few steps and immediately make her go forward and over. Carry a crop if you need to. Sometimes just carrying it can make all the difference, and you don't even have to use it!
Back2Horseback and Ripplewind like this.
kcscott85 is offline  
post #3 of 7 Old 10-31-2012, 12:52 AM
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 461
• Horses: 0
Hard to say the cause without actually seeing things in motion.

Are you giving the pony an adequate release? Are you sitting down in the tack too soon? Are you giving the pony a good approach to the jump or just hoping she makes it over? Are you overfacing her?

If none of those are a factor you can set up a ground pole before the jump to help her out a bit. You can also place two poles on the jump in a "^" formation to make a kind of funnel into the jump. The minute you feel any kind of suck back on approach give her a strong kick forward or apply a crop. Don't let her go any other direction than forward. Even if she has to walk over the jump make her do it then praise her for her efforts.
Canterklutz is offline  
post #4 of 7 Old 10-31-2012, 03:53 AM Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3
• Horses: 0
Being honest I think the approach could be a problem as she would have lot of time to think about not doing the jump. Once you get her over it the first time shell do it again and again. I'm just confused about what to do on the approach should I
(a) ride her forwards using lil squeezes
(b) only apply the aid if I feel hesitation
(c) or wrap my legs around her belly

I've being doing a mix off all 3 of these which is prob very confusing for the pony. She is a nervous pony and I just want to give her the confidence that this isn't scary it's all ok.
Posted via Mobile Device
dawnhanbury is offline  
post #5 of 7 Old 10-31-2012, 12:30 PM
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,093
• Horses: 1
my friends arabian pony, Pie, does this. But he is half evil. lol. anyways, sometimes it takes more than "please... please jump... oh you didnt? okay... lets try again." it takes a crop. and a "do it!" attitude sometimes to show the pony whose boss. because at this rate, youve trained him that its okay to stop, because he will just get to do it again till he feels hes messed around enough. sometimes, a wake up call is needed.
ThoroughbredJumper is offline  
post #6 of 7 Old 11-01-2012, 12:54 AM
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,400
• Horses: 1
it is almost ALWAYS rider error. My previous gelding was what i like to call a "dirty stopper". so much so that it got to my head and i never trusted him to go, which instantly resulted in him slamming on the brakes all the time. I promptly sold him.
My current jumper is brave for days, which has made me brave. When he sucks back at a scary fence, i put my leg on and encourage him to go. I may even sit in the back seat a little to make sure i'm driving him, and not allowing myself to become light enough to get thrown.
To me, once the behavior of stopping like that is learned, it's there forever.

Life seems mighty precious, when there's less of it to waste.
Oxer is offline  
post #7 of 7 Old 11-01-2012, 03:37 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3
• Horses: 0
Just a lil update for you guys today i rode with a differnet attitude in that I stopped worrying about what I was doing right or wrong and started listening to what the pony was telling me and getting her to do the opposite for example she wanted to go left i made her go right and this resulted in her jumping yay us hopefully this continue on
Back2Horseback and Ripplewind like this.
dawnhanbury is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jumping help needed! Passion4Horses Jumping 2 10-03-2012 09:30 PM
Your Thoughts and expertise Chilly Horse Conformation Critique 9 07-04-2012 03:11 PM
Need your expertise BecsMares Horse Training 4 10-05-2010 10:33 AM
Jumping critique needed! 1dog3cats17rodents Horse Riding Critique 11 07-14-2009 06:28 PM
Help Needed With Jumping. ChingazMyBoy Jumping 6 05-11-2009 01:22 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome