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        04-12-2010, 12:18 AM
    Your opinion, please? (: (How Often)

    Basically, currently I'm riding an AWESOME appy pony, who is a spectacular jumper/show pony.
    Right now we're schooling to 2'6, and coming up this month I'm taking her to the first show of the season, hoping to compete 2 feet, 2'3 and 2'6 (I know you're supposed to show lower than you school, but it's a smaller show where the judges give you lots of amazing feedback, and we're paying for the day so why not?)

    The thing is, I'm not EXTREMELY confident over the jumps. She's competed to 3'6, but I know my position could use a lot of work, and I want to work on it as much as possible this month.

    So how often a week is 'ok' for jumping? We ride either in a sand arena or on grass (the ground isn't hard AT ALL). She's barefoot right now, getting shoes this week (probably just front... should we get the backs done?)...
    I know lots of people say you shouldn't jump them often, because it hurts their joints, but then there are people who say it doesn't matter, and amazing hunter jumper barns that have their horses jumping five days out of seven, so what are your experiences? Is it actually going to hurt her?
    And please actually support your answer (:

    What if I was to take her over smaller jumps throughout the week to get us both "perfected"?
    ... Yeah.
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        04-12-2010, 12:58 AM
    I think if you're aiming to work on your position there's as much to work on on the flat as there is in the air.
    That said, it's hard for me to tell you how often you should jump - I don't know your horse, your horse's history, your conditions, her jumping style, etc. I would suggest you ask a coach who is familiar with your horse, your riding, and has your best interests in mind.
    Personally, I'll jump anywhere from 0 - 6 days a week.. But I'm not jumping 4' courses, I'm usually working on pace & control. I'm also on a horse who is physically very fit and has clean x-rays, on good footing.
        04-12-2010, 01:20 AM
    My position is lovely on the flat.
    ... Wow, that was arrogant, haha.

    But I'm a fairly strong rider as far as EQ is concerned, and my position is fine over smaller jumps, the problems I have with bigger jumps is that she really launches so I sort of... bump forward? I stay on fine, and it's nothing major, I'm just not 'used to it' and want more practice?

    My coach:
    My coach is the horses owner, we've got her on free lease. My coach is 'retired' and coming back for me, my mom thinks she's 'A-M-A-Z-I-N-G' and she is... but I don't know, she's not very approachable? She said she's always been sound and very sure over fences, never had any problems.
    She's fairly fit, but coming off of 'maternity leave', basically she had no rider for a bit longer than usual after her baby, so we're still working on that, but we don't spend HOURS jumping, 15 minutes or so a ride, including warmup jumps.
        04-12-2010, 08:55 AM
    Green Broke
    Well, jumping bigger fences is all about flat work It doesn't matter how lovly your seat is on the flat, you should be up in your two point position trotting laps around the arena if you're having trouble with it over fences.

    A horse SHOULD NOT jump more than maybe three times a week. I only jump once to MAYBE twice a week on regularity, and then I maybe jump a course with my trainer every day if it's the week aproching a show. Hop up and down on one leg for an extended period of time. Not only is your foot taking the shock, your ankle, knee, hip, back, and shoulders are. That is how a horse feels coming off the backside of a jump. No matter how soft the ground, that impact is substansial. It is very hard on a horse just jumping them 2'. You want to have the days off from jumping to practice other things too. It is slightly obvious that you arn't giving dressage and flatwork your total priority, which it should be given. Flatwork is the key to jumping, always.
        04-12-2010, 10:24 AM
    Originally Posted by StormyBlues    
    Well, jumping bigger fences is all about flat work It doesn't matter how lovly your seat is on the flat, you should be up in your two point position trotting laps around the arena if you're having trouble with it over fences.
    Exactly what I was saying.
    If you're having trouble with your position over fences (which you say you are), there's more you can do about it on the ground then over fences.
    I'd be focusing more on trotting in two point, as well as half-seat, with ground poles & such.
        04-12-2010, 05:19 PM
    Green Broke
    I never jump more than 2 times a week. I like preserving my horse's legs.
        04-12-2010, 07:29 PM
    It is slightly obvious that you arn't giving dressage and flatwork your total priority, which it should be given. Flatwork is the key to jumping, always.

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    No, I'm not giving Dressage any of my priority really. I ride training level dressage tests on occasion, but I don't have much of an interest in it. As for flatwork, I do do a lot of flatwork, but this particular thread is about jumping. I said I'm working on my position, both on the flat and over fences, and I'm trying to get comfortable jumping at this level, my position isn't horrendous, and I am working with a trainer.
    I apologize if that isn't how it came across.

    What I'm asking is your opinion on how often horses can be jumping, and at what level it really starts hurting their joints.

    Now, I'm sorry if I'm coming across as rude, I don't mean to, but this thread is veering from where I wanted it to be and getting into a topic that I'll leave for my trainer, I'm looking for a variety of opinions on how often you jump your horses and how often you jump on the higher scale.
        04-12-2010, 08:46 PM
    I definently wouldn't jump her more than 2 or 3 times a week
        04-12-2010, 08:52 PM
    Green Broke
    As far as what level starts hurting their joints....

    Any level can hurt their joints if you do it too much.
        04-12-2010, 09:04 PM
    The answer you get on the forum are all the same and the answers outside of the forum are all the same. =P I was just out with a bunch of my mom's friend, including the ponies owner/trainer and they're more in the mind of 'as much as you want, as long as you take good care of them'.

    On that note:
    Of the people who are jumping 2-3 times a week, how much are you doing on those days? If you were to do (taking this onto a deeper level, haha) the same number of jumps with fewer jumps a day with sufficient warmup and cooldown, would that be the same? Just popping over a crossrail or two for "fun" while working on other things, in order to make sure they're still paying attention? Or switch things up a bit?
    I honestly can't see that being a problem, but I don't know the exact science behind it. ;)

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