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        04-12-2010, 08:07 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    When I jump, I usually jump for about half an hour to 45 minutes depending on what the goal is for the day, if I am working on grids or courses, or bumping up the fences, or in a lesson.

    I wouldn't consider it the same if you spaced it out because their joints still wouldn't have the sufficient time to rest.

    However, like you said, if you have a horse who loves jumping and you want to switch it up and do a X rail or two, that shouldn't be a problem. I do that with one of my mares who hates dressage. If she's good, I'll pop her over a crossrail.
         
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        04-12-2010, 08:12 PM
      #12
    Started
    Yeah, I typically do 30-45 minutes of flat work, 15-20 minutes of jumping and then cool her out for as long as she needs to.

    She does love jumping, both of my horses do. I left a jump set up in the field and she just played with it hopping over it and making a big scene. It was cute.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:28 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    This is one of those questions that has no black and white answer. There are too many variables to give you a specific answer. I know A LOT of trainers who say there is little wear and tear on a horse when jumping under 3'. In fact, I think William Steinkraus even says it in one of his books. I had a trainer tell me you can jump a horse 2"3 practically every day. These are also trainers on young, fit, conformationally sound horses who spend thousands a month for the ABSOLUTE best care and maintenance. That being said I don't believe in jumping just for the heck of it.

    The number of time I jump my horses a week completely depends on their level of training and how high they're jumping. On a really green horse learning to jump I think it's more beneficial for them to jump a few crossbars 4 or 5 days a week then to have one massive day of jumping once a week. On a less green horse that's in training I'll jump more jumps in one day but only do it a few times a week. I don't jump a horse bigger (over 3") more the once or twice a week unless we're at a show.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:35 PM
      #14
    Started
    That's what I was thinking... and what about horses that are in stalls vs. pasture? Standing in a stall all day can have problems with their joints, compared to horses who have the run of a field, so does that make a difference?
    My horses all have 24/7 access to the barn and the field and are never in a stall.
         
        04-12-2010, 09:02 PM
      #15
    Trained
    I think a great program for green horses or riders involves doing a jumping exercise [this is your real jump for the week] and building it up as far as desired to reach your goal- ie starting with a ground pole grid & building it up to 3ft. Then through out the next few days while you are working them, pop through it once to help them remember what they learned, built the correct muscling, & acquire muscle memory.

    That being said, I wouldnt go out & school xc for 2 hrs every day, & yes I know people who do that !
         
        04-12-2010, 09:23 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Studdies show that when our horses land off of a fence, their joints absorb alot of shock that occurs when the hooves hit the ground and the horses body weight compacts down onto the front legs.

    These studdies show that this shock wears and tears on our horses joints, ligaments and tendons and the impaction of the 1100lb animal on those ankles, knees, shoulders.

    That being said, many Grand Prix Riders/Trainers/Competators only jump about once a week, if maybe 2. Many, don't even jump until the warm up ring at the comp itself because they want to preserve their horses legs.

    What is it that they primarily focus on? Dressage. Dressage builds the muscles, dressage builds the stamina and dressage is the fundamentals for all aspects of the equestrian discipline. It makes them that much better, for when they do jump.

    Believe it or not, those who are at the lower levels, really over jump their horses - funny how those at lower levels try to mimik those of upper levels in any way that they can, but fail short in the training aspect,

    As big named competators, such as Ian Millar, Erik Lamaze, Rodrigo Pessoa and more say

    "A horse only has so much jump"

    I jump once a week.
         
        04-12-2010, 09:49 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    I wouldn't jump more than once a week, if not less. What you need to work on is dressage and jump work over ground poles and/or cavalettis, as well as flat work. You already know your horse can jump, all that needs work is your position and her form/collection.
         
        04-12-2010, 10:06 PM
      #18
    Trained
    It also depends on how much jumping you are doing in that time. But which is better once a week for 1.5- 2hrs or 3 times a week for 10-15 minutes ?? I prefer to study little & often over cramming personally.
         
        04-12-2010, 11:04 PM
      #19
    Started
    Exactly, that's what I was saying. And there MUST be a difference between professional jumpers and jumpers that are doing under 3 feet. Otherwise, half the school horses I know would be completely lame right now.
    I'm not taking it down to once a week or less, because my focus is not in dressage and I do do a lot of work on position on the flat, and without practise there is no way to get better, but I'm certainly not going to be jumping 2'6 six days a week.
         
        04-13-2010, 12:06 AM
      #20
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alexischristina    
    Exactly, that's what I was saying. And there MUST be a difference between professional jumpers and jumpers that are doing under 3 feet. Otherwise, half the school horses I know would be completely lame right now.
    I'm not taking it down to once a week or less, because my focus is not in dressage and I do do a lot of work on position on the flat, and without practise there is no way to get better, but I'm certainly not going to be jumping 2'6 six days a week.

    I was well aware that your focus is not on dressage, do you think I didn't notice the subject of this thread? I stand by my post. The truth isn't pretty, even though jumping is fun for us and the horse often enjoys it, it is strenuous compared to flat work.

    Any form of jumping causes extra strain on the joints compared to no jumping. I am typically more concerned about the horses that take new riders over 2-3ft jumps 3 times a week because not only are they jumping multiple times, they are doing so with riders that are often unbalanced.

    Tell me, what is your weekly schedule now in regards to jumping? And what exactly were you looking for in this thread?
         

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