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post #21 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 09:06 PM
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confused.. i show @ hunter shows in eq. classes. so am i am eq. rider or hunter? Cause we definately ride hunters.. But show in the equatation divisions..
If you soley do EQ at a hunter show, you are a EQ rider. EQ is kind of a division of hunters, same shows, but it's on the rider. In the low levels the courses are pretty much the same. In the big EQ classes, the courses are more technical, more like jumpers than hunters. In big EQ stuff, the horses tend to be more flat jumpers and flashy movers who won't jump huge and throw off the rider. The best hunters can be hard to look good on, they have big round, back cracking jumps.
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post #22 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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hmm. Well we don't do a lot of showing off-farm but last summer only attened EQ classes.

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post #23 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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If hunters is judged soley on the horse, what's with all that "sit there and look pretty" perching crap?
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post #24 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 10:29 PM
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If hunters is judged soley on the horse, what's with all that "sit there and look pretty" perching crap?
Because its judged on the horse

And as an Edit: If you watched the Big Eq you would see some really beautiful equitation, that is not only textbook correct but 100% effective.

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post #25 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 10:43 PM
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What I'm asking with the perching is, if it's just an ornamental position, it can't possibly be effective in helping the horse jump round or pick up the correct leads? How do the biggest offenders win the most ribbons? Are they all riding push button horses?
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post #27 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 10:59 PM
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What I'm asking with the perching is, if it's just an ornamental position, it can't possibly be effective in helping the horse jump round or pick up the correct leads? How do the biggest offenders win the most ribbons? Are they all riding push button horses?
Depends on where you are, what shows you are looking at, the class they are in, The horse etc etc. Need to know that in order to tell you whether or not the horse is a push button.
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Actually... if you want to get technical the 3rd picture is ALSO pinching with her knee. Her lower leg is slightly slipped back (though not nearly as dramatically as the first two) and she is jumping ahead (her butt should be over the middle of her saddle, not the pommel).

Perching is not "ornamental". just a bad bad habit that tons of people are picking up and judges don't penalize. since they win anyways they don't fix it. vicious cycle.
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post #29 of 59 Old 11-11-2009, 11:57 PM
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myboypuck: there are a lot of people who just have lots of $ and can afford to have someone else ride/train/hack their horses so that they can show them and they are perfect. I was at Woodside (a big show park here in CA) back in September and i can't tell you how many riders i saw just go through the motions and point the horse at the jumps and just two point. I for one don't have that money and have to work with trainers to get my horse to where she needs to be so not everyone is that way but there are a lot who are.

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post #30 of 59 Old 11-12-2009, 04:43 AM
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Third is the closest to where you want the leg to be...

agree with stormy blues on there description on hunters but dont forget if the rider is all messy then the horse aint gonna be jumping to the best of its ability...

you want the leg forward as it puts the center of balance in the right place - when you are pinching at the knee and letting you legs fly back then your centre of gravity changes... for hunter riders this can effect how your horse jumps as the weight will be too far forward...

Not to mention if anything goes wrong its extremely hard to recover from as your legs just arent there
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