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        05-13-2013, 01:32 PM
      #61
    Trained
    Lol CM the trainer calls them his colt moments, because in terms of experience he is still a colt
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        05-13-2013, 04:45 PM
      #62
    Showing
    Wouldn't a whip be more effective than spurs?
         
        05-13-2013, 05:10 PM
      #63
    Trained
    I don't know which would be more effective, I am prepared to take advice on this.
         
        05-13-2013, 05:24 PM
      #64
    Showing
    From how I understand it, spurs are more about refining aids, not getting the horse to go faster whereas a whip backs up your leg more. However for the western world, it could be different.. I'm not sure.
         
        05-17-2013, 12:09 AM
      #65
    Trained
    It is such fun to own 2 horses with such different temperaments, Ben is so green and lazy, he is hard work.

    You ask Ben for something and he just kind of goes, "Yeah I know you want something, but I have no idea what, so I'll keep doing this until you make it clear what you want.

    Emmy is so UP, you ask her for something and it's "yeah you want this, or was it that, maybe it was this, Oh screw it I'll panic instead"

    I can push Ben, hard, in fact I have to push him hard, because he thinks he knows best, so I have to demand everything.

    Emmy I have to ask, and encourage, I have never spent so much time reassuring, and never had a horse who I have to ask so gently, and not demand, because she will melt down.

    Every horse is like a puzzle, you have to keep finding the next bit.
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        05-17-2013, 11:00 AM
      #66
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    You ask Ben for something and he just kind of goes, "Yeah I know you want something, but I have no idea what, so I'll keep doing this until you make it clear what you want.

    Emmy is so UP, you ask her for something and it's "yeah you want this, or was it that, maybe it was this, Oh screw it I'll panic instead"
    this is what I LOVE about hot breeds. My arab mare is exactly like emmy, I think about doing things and she does it. If you ask her, with the same force you would an average horse, you get a melt down. My cousins drafts on the other hand, go something like this. (squeeze to ask for a trot) Horse plods on. (squeeze harder for a trot) If anything, the walk slows down(bump with your heels) momentary ear flick, continue plodding. (GOOD FIRM KICK) "ok, ok, fine!!" transition to slow jog.

    Its great to hear ben is doing so well
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        05-17-2013, 11:35 AM
      #67
    Trained
    I don't know if all hot breeds are the same, but I'm finding it with the Arabs. I am not a brave rider, but I don't find a reactive Arab scary to ride, because, at least for mine, they are deep down sensible, they don't want to get themselves or their rider in trouble, so mine don't do mindless panic, but they are always alert and on the alert.

    It was a defining moment for me yesterday, I had her stopped at right angles to the rails, and was going to get a step or two of side pass, well I asked with the same level of intensity as I ask Ben, and in a few short seconds, parts of seconds, she moved forward, as I was blocking that movement she figured that wasn't it, so she would try back, as I was thinking no not back, ask for a little forward, she is already heading toward the rail again, but has now figured that side pass is what is needed, and is starting to move over, just as I am blocking the forward motion. Emmy, rightly, is now screw you lady I'm going to reverse, and get light on the front, because AGHHHHHH.

    All that happened so quickly, it was so scary to see how fast you could melt that mare back down again. We tried again, stop, GOOD GIRL Emmy, now just stand here and breathe, and I'm going to caress your side here, and YES, lovely little movement to the side, GOOD GIRL Emmy, now lets walk around for a while, and then we will try again.

    I can so see why she was so overloaded in a show barn, she needs one patient person just to build her confidence in herself from the ground up, if she keeps succeeding she will become awesome, it is my job to help that journey.

    Bluespark, LOL that's Ben to a T, well it was until now, ow we work at ask lightly, if we don't get, then a quick reinforcement with a whip,he is early enough in his training that we can hopefully over come that draft plod mindset
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        05-18-2013, 01:48 PM
      #68
    Trained
    Yeah, another breakthrough with Ben, carry a dressage whip and we have an engine.

    I have been gently, and then more firmly asking, then I end up nagging. Now I ask gently, ask gently again, and if I don't get anything, he gets a reminder. Now there is one thing that Ben is, he is actually quite smart. And in very few repeats I was getting a very smart transition, halt to walk and walk to trot.

    I'm still to chicken livered to try and canter him, and riding Ben my 50' round pen feels very claustrophobic
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        05-19-2013, 05:55 PM
      #69
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    It is such fun to own 2 horses with such different temperaments, Ben is so green and lazy, he is hard work.

    You ask Ben for something and he just kind of goes, "Yeah I know you want something, but I have no idea what, so I'll keep doing this until you make it clear what you want.

    Emmy is so UP, you ask her for something and it's "yeah you want this, or was it that, maybe it was this, Oh screw it I'll panic instead"

    I can push Ben, hard, in fact I have to push him hard, because he thinks he knows best, so I have to demand everything.

    Emmy I have to ask, and encourage, I have never spent so much time reassuring, and never had a horse who I have to ask so gently, and not demand, because she will melt down.

    Every horse is like a puzzle, you have to keep finding the next bit.
    Sky is a mixture of both of your horses. He's green and has his hard "I'm trying!!" days, and then others he's like "I AM IN MY OWN WORLD, LALALALALA.. OMG A DEER... RUN!!!!" yeah haha.. it's a lot of fun. :P

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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Yeah, another breakthrough with Ben, carry a dressage whip and we have an engine.

    I have been gently, and then more firmly asking, then I end up nagging. Now I ask gently, ask gently again, and if I don't get anything, he gets a reminder. Now there is one thing that Ben is, he is actually quite smart. And in very few repeats I was getting a very smart transition, halt to walk and walk to trot.

    I'm still to chicken livered to try and canter him, and riding Ben my 50' round pen feels very claustrophobic
    I'm happy that works for you!
         
        09-21-2013, 12:13 AM
      #70
    Trained
    This is the end of this thread sadly, some things in life do not work out as we hope.

    As many of you know I had an accident getting on Ben back on 1st July, I ended up in hospital for 3 weeks, and am still rehabbing to some extent. The decision was made to sell Ben, so he was advertised as soon as I was fit enough to be able to present him at all.

    Sadly the first person who came to see him was doing great, until she tried to get on him
    - In case anyone is wondering I was completely open and honest with this buyer about his history, but she was more than happy to ride-

    Trouble is she never got a chance to actually ride because he repeated the exact same move with her, and got the same result, fortunately she only suffered a little bruising.

    I wish I could give a happy ending, but I have spoken to the trainers who have worked with Ben before, and no one is willing to take him on. He is currently advertised with full disclosure, at very little money, and husband just wants him away from here. Unless I can find someone, and the RIGHT someone in the next few weeks, well lets say there's not a lot of future for Ben.

    I have debated updating his story, but you have followed our story, and this is where it ends one way or another.
         

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