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post #251 of 1967 Old 02-01-2013, 11:49 PM
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I am on pins and needles! ouch.
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Well gang, no babies yet but I'm thinking we'll be getting some later today or tomorrow.

She's definitely contracting (I felt one along her back, then when I went to let her out and she zoomed around me, I saw her tail curl to the side in a real strange way, like those Fiasco pictures!), ligs are totally gone (I can get my fingers nearly all the way around her tail bone), her hoo-ha DOES look like risen yeasty bread and it's ridiculously loose. AND she's making weird quiet noises that I've never heard before - presumably talking to her babies?
She also ate maybe a 1/2 cup of her breakfast (about 3 total cups which she usually eats like she's starving), then shunned it totally.

I went to let her out for the day -prior to seeing the contraction- and she immediately shot out of the stall and headed straight for the deep woods at the back of the pasture. I followed her, then saw the contraction, "captured" her, and took her right back to the stall. I realized that she may have never kidded inside before and so she's acting mad about being in the stall due to that.
Anyway, I thought about just letting her out but with how comfortable Duke, the coyote, is about hanging around and with how I've read that baby goats love to hide...probably best to lock her in for the day.
So she's inside still. Inside and SUPER mad. But safe, and that's what matters.

SOMEONE suddenly looks super prego (for non-goat aficionados, goats carry babies on their right sides=the side that looks huge in this picture) :

Anyhoo, I'm going to head back up to check on her in about two hours.

Leah, she does seem a bit "spacey", like when she was making those weird noises. And she's sort of acting like a middle school girl who's mad at her best friend and is dong the whole "I can't see you!" thing, but it seemed like she goes in and out. Like when I brought her her breakfast, she was "with us" for that! haha
And of course, yesterday I forgot and mentioned to my lesson kid, in Haze's presence, that I had midterms all week this week. Yup. THIS goat.
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post #253 of 1967 Old 02-02-2013, 03:36 PM
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Oh boy! This is just like waiting for Christmas when I was a young un!!!!
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RIGHT??! You are telling me!

I'm just over here being all "please have a doe, please have a doe, please have a HEALTHY doe...please have a healthy doe TODAY while it's light out..."

Amusingly, her having babies now means she probably got pregnant between the day I met her and the day I picked her up. IRONY. Combine that with the fact that -she NEVER jumps anywhere- she literally lept 1 foot up, into my van when I picked her up... Maybe she just likes me a whole lot?

I sat with her for about 2 hours earlier (after my last post, I'm supposed to be reading a book to write a 3 page paper that's due on Monday...and that's not been super easy currently, for obvious reasons, so I figured I could read up there and have no reason NOT to read) and nothing really is happening.
She's not interested in food at all (she'll take a bit or two, then stop) and she did do a little pawing, then laid down next to me (ADORABLE). Every couple of minutes she would sort of stiffen+shake gently but that was just while she was laying down. She stayed down for a good hour, then got up again - no stiffening/shaking while she was standing.
She is drinking a lot of water so I figure that's good in terms of an udder - which is still very small, btw.
Her tail is also pretty consistently off to the side - I've read that that is "the sign" that her ligs are officially officially gone.

I think I'm going to leave them all alone for a bit, just in case that helps speed things up. Lockwood was telling me that she's seem somewhere that Angoras are generally pretty private about giving birth, then add to that that she's locked in where she doesn't really want to be... My presence is probabbbbblyyy not going to help her want to pop some babies out.
I'll head back up around 4 (it's 1:30 now) to put everybody in for the night, then report back. I'll probably check at least once tonight before going to bed, as well.

Gooooo Hazel!

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This is exciting! Can't wait! Go Hazel!
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Have started following this thread and love it! Now it's 3:30 am on the east coast and I'm like can't hardly wait for the news.
I used to breed pedigeed cats and you're right, it's just like Christmas, the waiting to see what you're going to get.
I may not have read far enough back but do you have any idea who daddy is? She is just beautiful! Waiting with you :)
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Daddy was a young angora. The lady claimed that he was too young to....get things done. Obviously, she was incorrect.

Can't wait for goat babies!
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post #258 of 1967 Old 02-03-2013, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Grayshell is right! Daddy is a purebred Angora that the lady thought was "too young+not thriving enough" to get Hazel pregnant. I'm not sure if he was Hazel's son from last spring or what (most of the Angora's the previous owner had were some kin to Miss Haze) but he may have been. Thankfully, from what I'm read, goats are pretty tolerant of inbreeding so things could be worse..I suppose.

No babies yet but the hormones are definitely raging!
Here she is behaving very unlike herself and basically picking a fight with Mr. Atti - doesn't sound AT ALL like a woman going into labor, right?

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Well, ya'll can breath easy for a bit longer - no babies yet! It seems that Miss Hazel decided that kidding on a weekend would be toooo easy. It seems that what I saw was perhaps a bit of false labor mixed with being pocked in an awkward spot by a little one.

This is so funny. I'm part of a goat forum where I have a kidding thread for Hazel, over there they're absolutely convinced that she is not pregnant, that she's pulling a grand heist of epic proportions/I'm trolling them/I'm stupid. Over here, we're all "she's pregnant, yaaaay!!"

If she is pulling a grand heist though...oh boy. THAT would be frustrating.
However, she was acting so unusually yesterday (acting like she wanted to fight one second, then terrified of me the next, then going WWE on Atticus while loving on me the NEXT second - there is Hazel fluff strewn ALLLL over the pasture from Atticus trying to fight back, etc) that I can't imagine this being a "normal", non-pregnancy induced, event of any kind.
It smacks of the kind of behavior I've heard pregnant women display! haha

She's still not too interested in food however...not sure what's up with that. She is pooping fine so she must be eating something!... She eats about half her grain, then leaves it all... Same with hay - a few mouthfuls and she's "done"...

Anyway, tomorrow is her last official due date (if she were bred on the day I brought her home) so, from what I've read, that means we should likely have babies by Saturday since they don't generally go more than 5 days past due.

Also, random thought that I had this morning - she's been on MSM for weeks in an attempt to help any joint ills she may have. However, I am overdosing her for her size (a proper dose didn't seem to help - an overdose did. I got her a horse joint supplement to use once the threat of pregnancy is over since it had ingredients that shouldn't be used on young ones...) and MSM is amazing at lessening inflammation so maybe that's somehow hindering things? I have no idea but I took her off it, just in case.

Lacey is really excited about this whole turn of events. She really seems to like that I'm checking on them more often and she ESPECIALLY loved the 9 o'clock checks over the weekend! Silly girl. :)
I bet she's going to love babysitting for her bestie, once the babies are big+smart enough to be out and about! She does love babies.
It's almost a shame that she was never bred, mostly for the fact that she adores babies/young things of any and all species.
Conformationally, the world doesn't really need another hyper gray unregistered horse with a butt that's a good 4-5 inches taller than it's front end...but still, bred to the right stallion, things could have been acceptable for that baby. Lacey woulda been a fantastic mom.
Oh well!
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...need info..
...having withdrawls...
...can't breathe.... *gasp*

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