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post #101 of 5235 Old 05-07-2016, 05:18 PM
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post #102 of 5235 Old 05-07-2016, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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Im exhausted.

Heres my lesson from yesterday. Please dont share it outside HF.thx

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I thought might be easier for people to see if its embedded here for them:





I have not been able to watch all of it yet as my internet is horrible in the evenings, but from what I have seen your reins did look too short. But more importantly you look GREAT on Fly!!
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Haven't watched all of it, but just in the first two minutes, a few things jumped out at me.

First, yes, your reins are VERY short.

Second, you are VERY stiff. You have no fluidity in your hips and your arms are very straight with no elasticity. You need to follow the horse's motion with your hips. Your back doesn't have to look like it has a ramrod shoved up it. Watch any of the top riders of any discipline and they follow the motion of the horse. Your shoulders and elbows should be following the horse's motion if you're going to ride two-handed. That way you don't pop your horse in the mouth by accident.

Fly is very cute and seems really willing. She also seems very...not nervous, but...unsure? How many rides does she have on her?

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I thought might be easier for people to see if its embedded here for them

I have not been able to watch all of it yet as my internet is horrible in the evenings, but from what I have seen your reins did look too short. But more importantly you look GREAT on Fly!!
Thanks.

Yes my reins were too short. Not trying to make excuses (this is the first time ever that i used those reins, theyre my trainers) and i wasnt overly crazy about them. They just felt way too short, even though im sure single reins are all the same length.

Dont ask me why i held the reins so forward, i think its because i wanted some slack between my hands (like i get with the single leather reins on the lesson mare). I swear they felt noticably shorter in length than my reins.

Im curious to see how i do with my new reins tomorrow.

Of course the small stirrups didnt help. Im excited to put my new and larger stirrups to work tomorrow.

I was adjusting to a new horse, new saddle, new stirrups, new reins all at once.
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I agree with above, you need to follow the movement! And let your reins out like 2 - 3inches so that they're just Infront of the saddle... But in saying that your instructor will correct you :)

With following movement I found it the best to close your eyes and just sit and feel your seat bones going 1,2,1,2 you'll feel it and you should follow it.
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I know you're not a dressage rider but go to my thread and watch one of the beginning videos to one of the most recent and see the difference
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They just felt way too short, even though im sure single reins are all the same length.
Single reins are not all the same length.

If you go into my tack room, you will find all single reins.. and they vary in length from 7 feet to 10 feet long!! While I could get away with the 10' reins on my barely-14.2 gelding with a short neck, its annoying to use them because the extra is long enough to catch around the toe of my shoe! And there is no way in heck I could ride my 15.2 long-necked mare in the 7' reins.. I would have to do two point and have my hands halfway up her neck.


I suspect you will be a lot more comfortable in your new reins. And certainly in your new stirrups.
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I've only seen the first 7 minutes. With my Internet speed...I'm downloading the file so I can watch it without it freezing on me.

I love Fly! I think you're doing fine. I'm a 58 year old guy who started jogging in 1972. I find myself needing 15-30 minutes to get my hips and legs relaxed and stretched enough to melt around my horse. FWIW, an exercise I like is to ride two-point, or "standing in the stirrups". At a relaxed walk, stand in the stirrups. Use the horn if needed to keep your balance - never reins. And just let the horse's motion sink your weight past your knees and into your heels. Another one that helps, if the horse doesn't object, is to lean forward in the saddle, then lean back, while the horse just stands still. You could also let your instructor lead your horse while you ride without stirrups. 2-3 minutes of that will loosen your body up and make riding easier.

Just suggestions. Download finished...you were looking better after the 20 minute mark. Enjoy! I like your horse!

PS - I used 10' single reins for Mia. 9' single reins with Bandit. And we use 8' single reins with Cowboy.

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Haven't watched all of it, but just in the first two minutes, a few things jumped out at me.

First, yes, your reins are VERY short.
Yip see my comment above.

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Second, you are VERY stiff. You have no fluidity in your hips and your arms are very straight with no elasticity. You need to follow the horse's motion with your hips. Your back doesn't have to look like it has a ramrod shoved up it. Watch any of the top riders of any discipline and they follow the motion of the horse. Your shoulders and elbows should be following the horse's motion if you're going to ride two-handed. That way you don't pop your horse in the mouth by accident.
No doubt in my mind i was too stiff. Now, im not trying to make excuses for myself but i will say that i dont ride the lesson mare anything like this. Im not stiff on her at all. You will see it in tomorrows lesson on Fly. Ill be a different person.

No doubt i can achieve that same feel on my mare.

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Fly is very cute and seems really willing. She also seems very...not nervous, but...unsure? How many rides does she have on her?
Thanks
Like i sais, she was very good yesterday and she was a bit unsure at times cause i was too stiff and too forward. Im never forward like this on a horse.

I had my lesson with my outside trainer today and she asked how my ride went. I told her and we chatted a bit about it. We both agreed that the biggest and most immediate adjustment that im having to make is going from a 15hh horse to a 14.2hh horse. On the lesson mare, i had a bit of a buffer for her to not read my signals if i accidentally lean forward on her. Because Fly has a shorter back, i dont have that margin for error which is a-ok by me because like I said this will put my balance and bacj posture to the test.

My outside trainer also mentioned how lesson mares know what being asked from them and they learn every riders style and tendencies over time. Fly doesnt have this so thats why i need to be as direct as i can be with her and reward her right away when she does what i ask. We did this yesterday. For me, im a big believer that giving a young horse scratches on their neck or withers while in the saddle is critical in their learning.

I dont know how many total rides the previous owner had on her but from digging for info from her, its in the 40-50 range from the previous owner and about 18 from my riding coach now from last Fall.

I will be honest, in some ways yesterday kinda felt like when i first got on the lesson mare. I had to get used to her as well. But it was really quick that i got used to her and got in sync with her. And dont forget, I was riding her ONCE A WEEK! I will be riding my mare 2 times a week for now and eventualky up to 3 times a week. This is what my riding coach suggested as well. To start, she wull ride her first then i ride her for 20mins until i get more in sync then my ride time goes up and hers goes down.
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