Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ~*~ NEBRASKA ~*~
We do video Cin, and I know he is FAR from perfect. I agree with most of the judges comments. Cinny is unrefined, does not bit up properly and is very inconsistent with rounding. He rounds some days, other days he doesn't... show day he didn't. Watching his video I know he is NOT worthy of anything above 65... in fact anything above 60 would be a stretch by what I see. I DO NOT disagree with that, just to let you all know that. What I disagree with is the horses that do not perform safely and repeatedly do something nasty during their test scoring higher because I don't think that is an obedient and submissive horse. At least Cinny is obedient and submissive even if he has his problems with not knowing what to do with his head quite yet and doesn't have much topline developed.
We also video'd tanty horses....which I won't post because the owner did not know I even taped them, and I do not have their permission to post... But I will narrate a bit.
Cinny, training test 2
Horse comes in, steady but head up a little, not round.
Halts for salute but anticipates moving forward and trots on before asked.
Tracking right at C bends fully into corner but nicks a board, continues forward in rhythmic trot. Horse not round but attempts to round down periodically.Appears to not know what to do with his head. Goes back and forth between being behind or in front of bit.
At B trots a 20m circle. Balanced a rhythmic, a little flat on one side. Horse still appears to not know what to do with his head and doesn't travel round.
KXM change rein. Horse rhythmic and rounds down during whole diagnal. Does not change rhythm with rein change but does pop head up slightly.
C horse moves smoothly into canter. Correct lead, 20m circle at E is round.
At V transitions into a nice trot, horse playing with being round but not consistent with it.
At A stretchy circle is more 15m instead of 20 M. Horse stretching down and blows out his nose several times. When reins are taken up he pops his head up and shallows back.
Smooth transition to walk. FXM free walk is smooth and rhythmic. Horse's neck slightly curved with nose at knee level. Again horse shallows upon rein contact.
Trot transition at C smooth, not quite on the bit or round. Goes back and forth between being under the bit and over, but not correctly on the bit.
E 20M round and balanced circle, horse continues to be in front of or behind bit.
FXH change of rein, rhythm not interupted, horse still playing with where he wants his head to be
Canter at B correct lead, not as smooth as other transitions. Bend and round circle
A transition to Halt smooth, staight down center Halt is at X. Horse again moves forward before asked.
Right off the bat refuses to come into the arena at A and throws a mini tanty. Rider smacks him with dressage stick and he jumps into arena trots down center line and halts.Before the rider is ready he does a prance and breaks into a canter and then is pulled back to a trot before hitting C.
Tracks right at C goes deep into the corner stops, rears thrashing it's head side to side does a little spin and a buck and then continues toward B with nice roundness and frame.
20m circle at B is round however the horse breaks into a canter every 2 or 3 strides throughout the circle. Nice frame, horse on the bit and round.
KXM trot is rhythmic horse breaks into canter when rider changes rein. Again, on the bit properly and round.
Canter 20M circle at E wrong lead, rider brings to trot and asks again...wrong lead, trot then wrong lead rider gives up. Horse stargazing the whole circle.
Transtition to trot nice. Round, rhythmic and beautiful movement
Stretchy circle at A horse yanks reins and wildly breaks to canter and finishes circle at canter.
Transitin to walk nice. Horse settles down, nice frame and movement, playing with bit and drooling.
Free walk FXM Again we decide to do a stargazing canter instead of freewalk.
Trot at C, nice transition, on the bit nice frame, very pretty.
20M circle at E Horse breaks to canter several times, nice frame and roundness using his back.
FXH change rein, very nice, elegant looking smooth. Best movement of the test.
Canter at B, correct lead however horse bucks 2 times when asked. Horse throwing nose down to knees and appears to be attempting to run through the bridle or buck.
Trot transition a little rough with some crow hops. Straight down center line halting at X. Horse standing but tossing his head up and down.
Rider attempts a free walk out but horse breaks to trot.
Cinny's score 55.3
Arabians score 62 something
THIS IS WHAT I THINK IS UNFAIR. How the heck did the arab get THAT kind of score with THAT kind of ride when Cinny's only flaws were that he was "fussy on the bit" "needs to develop topline" and "inconsistant connection" those were the judges comments..... I don't get it. This is what makes me mad.