hahahah DUDE IKR!!!!... they must be.... TWINS *GASP* lol

yay! I'm glad it's helping :)

AWESOME thanks for putting in that time to tell me!! hmmm what i would really like to get her to do is keep a fast gait for 5 mins or soo...i jus need to tell myself that she can do it! I jus started to do those kind of stretches with her and they have helped soooooo much!!! i need to start doing the riding tips now!!

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Mounted, make your horse work. Big trot. The fastest and most extended trot you can and just do that for like 5 minutes. then the other way. Then do a fast canter both ways, about 5 minutes. After that, slack the reins and cool her till she's breathing right. Then you can set up trotting poles and get her to big trot over them. That will get her to lift up her feet nice and high for you. I reccomend 3-6. You can even set up a small jump, you don't have to be in an english saddle. Just put it up a couple inches from the ground then trot over it. I did this sorta thing for 1 and a half to 2 hours.
Those just get her moving and it's a good thing to wear her out. Just do it at least 2 or 3 times a week. You can even do it more than that (that would be even better! I did it 2 or 3 times a week just because my mom would only drive me 2 or 3 times a week lol) and it would be great.
Good luck!!

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Another one is kinda like bowing. lift her hoof as if you were to pick it out then show her a carrot. When she sees it she'll obviously try to get it so you wanna bring her head down and through her legs while your still holding her leg. It's tricky for them. Cheyenne doesn't like it too much but if you keep doing it eventually you'll be able to lay her leg down on the ground. Cheyenne hasn't gotten to that stage yet but it takes time. Those just kinda stretch out the horses.

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you can also a similar stretch while mounted: Make a big circle (whatever gait you want) then circle smaller and smaller until you are doing barrel turns. Remember to bring back your inside leg and push her into your circle with your outside leg. then do it the other way.
Another ground stretch you can do is real easy: Lift up her hoof then bring her leg forward so that the top part is straight. Circle it up as high as you can then do the other leg.

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Your right you don't wanna kill her :p I'm no pro or anything, but I'd say just work her hard. Make sure she listens to you. If she gets tired and you tell her to lope but she thinks she's too tired to do it then still make sure she does it. Another thing: Get a carrot, show it to her and wait until she's about to grab it and then bring it towards her body. She probably won't like this too much, but if she really wants the carrot she will do it. A fit horse should be able to bring their head back to their rump. Till about the place where their hair kinda goes 'up'. I just started doing this so Cheyenne can hardly do it at all. She can't even bring back and touch her stomache yet unless she flings back her head to get a bug or something. But she needs to be able to hold it there. do that a couple times then go to the other side. I've done it once or twice and Cheyenne still can't fully bring back her head. It's a great excersize to do before you do barrel racing and stuff.

yeah, she's doing really well :) What temperature is it there? Today it's about 32*C and I rode for about 3 hours, I got some tips from Cheyenne's owner (I just lease her, but she may as well be mine because I am the only one who takes her out) and we made a little three jump course! it was really fun!! But anyways, I'd only work super hard if it's under 35*C. If it's over that then sure, work her a little, but don't make a big fuss about it and make sure that she has lots of water when she's done.

sorry, gotta separate this into a few different posts because I can't have more than 1000 characters and I typed out like 4000 lol

Sounds like you keep her in GREAT shape!! i would LOVE to start riding english..right now we do western gaming and stuff... well when i ride her i usaully go for an hour and a half sometimes...its getting so hot though that i dont want to over ride her! and when i lounge i usually try to go 20 mins....i would really like to get her in GREAT shape so we can work harder...what do you recomend doing to get her in shape with out killing her (lol) haha sometimes i underestimate her..thinking she cant go hard or i might hurt her..but hearing that you and cheyenne can do it gives me hope!! can you give me a few tips for getting her in shape?

Well when Cheyenne was bought she was skin and bones. You could easily count her ribs which isn't uncommon for an old horse. Since then she hasn't had ANY grain. It's been about 3 or 4 years and all she's eaten is hay and grass. You can't see her ribs at all anymore. I ride her about twice a week, but when I do ride her, I ride for about 2 hours and I make sure that I have something to work on (jumping, stopping, listening, collection, speed, etc.) not just going out there to do nothing. If I don't feel like riding her I will lunge her and just work on her trust. I do that for about half an hour or an hour or so. And then I do some stretches with her every once in a while just to make sure that she's not getting stiff or anything. So yeah that's pretty much all I do to get her fit. I don't even really know about anything like this, but it seems to be working!
What do you do?