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    10-03-2009, 01:59 PM
  #21
Weanling
She wants 500.00 dollars for her with papers and 450.00 without if there even are papers *rolls eyes* she'll probably tell me that they arnt back yet after she supposedly "sent" them in and tell me that she'll send them to me.. and then she gets 500 and I never get papers.
     
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    10-03-2009, 02:03 PM
  #22
Green Broke
Ohh wow!!!!! You could get a fully trained, good lined horse this day in age for 500.00$! I wouldnt pay more then 150$ for her either.

Papers or not, 500 is a little steep! Considering she doesnt even know how to be lead.
     
    10-03-2009, 02:51 PM
  #23
Weanling
From what I gathered on the phone with her and in the pictures before I went to see her I was more then willing to pay the 500. From my understanding she had just been trimmed. Her feet were good. She said she thought she show quality for local shows. She seemed to know what she was talking about. She was evasive about the bloodlines, stated she really didnt know anything about them.. and I thought ok.. well I'll take a look at the papers of the parents and see if there are any good lines.

I expected as any buyer would that she would be haltered and brought out when we came so that we could see her, cleaned up and made to look nice as most sellers would do before showing a horse off. Ya know? Clean them up and bring em out. Have the parents paper work on hand so I could see them.. let me walk her around and take a look at her conformation. She never once said anything online or over the phone about her eyelid being soen back together.. Never said anything until dad asked "What wrong with its eye?" She said.. "Oh! Well.. she got her head through the gates and tore it open.. and it had to be soen back together.." I don't think she wouldve said anything until dad spoke up. She was not cleaned, she was dirty, matted and was quite obviously very wormy. Long malformed hooves, overbite, which could lead to problems in the future, if it progressed. I asked multiple times to get her out and take a look at her, walk her around and play with her. She ignored my requests both times, which told me that she was not broke to lead. I asked her and she said well I've been working with her on it and I said ok.. well.. mind if we put a halter and lead on her and bring her out? Twice I asked and both times she ignored it.. so that right there tells me that she was NOT broke to lead or halter. She wasnt as friendly as she claimed in the ad.. she was actully pretty timid and scared.. only after 15 minutes .. did she finally come up to me for scratching. Neither the stud or dam had very good confo. It was only after I saw what (parents) she came from, the lack of training she had, hoof and teeth condition, living conditions and her overall confo.. that I decided against paying that much for "papered" scrub stock with unknown heritage. I gave her my offer.. She can accept it or turn it down but I believe I spoke in the best way I could without yelling or belittling her. I believe I was as nice as I couldve been without knocking her animals. I agree with the above poster that the elderly ones should be given away to a good home and that the filly shouldnt be priced that high.. based on her color alone..
     
    10-03-2009, 03:03 PM
  #24
Yearling
It's a shame but a lot of people are like that. Tell you one thing on the phone and when you get there you are so shocked at the complete difference. Again I wish the best outcome for the little filly. I also wish someone could put into that lady's head that she should get out of breeding and raising Mini's (probally all horses) and hand them over to caring people because that's what she should be worried about, them having the best possiable home not how much money she will make.
     
    10-03-2009, 03:09 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Ughh. That makes me sick. =( I feel for that little mini!
     
    10-03-2009, 03:29 PM
  #26
Weanling
I think that's what she's doing is getting rid of all of them because she doesnt want to breed any more. If she didnt have the proper facility or the proper knowledge to take care of them then she shouldnt be breeding in the first place. I am not a breeder but I for one would not just buy or pick up any willy nilly horse if I had plans to breed them. I would research the best bloodlines and breed for quality. She apparently was just breeding whatever tom, dick and harry came her way from the way she acted. The black mare she claimed had been a broodmare pretty much all of her life. Don't know about the other one. She just got the cheapest ones she could get a hold of and got the first stud that came her way and started breeding, not even caring about confo, bloodline or quality.. It angers me to see people do that. I hope that she realizes that she can't and wont get that much out of all of them. She needs to just give them away to loving homes, not market them for profit when they're pushing the graveyard as it is Nobody is going to pay 1000 dollars for 3 28 year old minis and a baby.. Nobody. If they do their stupid. I wish the best for the three adults that they find homes and hope that she accepts my offer. If she doesnt then I hope somebody will take the filly that will give her proper care and a good loving home where she will be treated well.
     
    10-03-2009, 05:31 PM
  #27
Weanling
I sent her another email. This one was worded better. I figure if I come off insulting that she wont respond.. my goal is to get her to take my offer.. so this is what I wrote. Tell me if you think it sounds convincing.

Look If I came off harsh I am sorry. I think you are a good person and have good intentions but the mares hooves were long, as were the filly's. They need hoof care. The bottom of her front left hoof is shifted and will need weekly farrier care for about a month to get it back to normal, because if let go, it will possibly lead to lameness. A miniature foal needs weekly trimming because they are in their growing period. It cannot wait 3 months. They need it done every 1 to 2 weeks at most. I don't know if you have recently wormed her but she does look like she needs it. She will probably need vacs soon too. I know times are tough and people are struggling to get by. I really feel at this point you should worry less about the money and more about finding them a good home. The elderly ones should be given away to good loving homes where they will be retired from breeding and be taken care of. If you will take my offer I will take the filly and give her a good loving home where she will be well taken care of. As soon as she gets here I will have a vet out to vaccinate her and I will worm her. I will also have a farrier out right away to start correction on her front hoof. Like I stated before the market is extremely bad and its hard to market any horse in this day and age. There is alot of competition out there. Minis are going for free and cheap, alot of them from quality show bloodlines. (Although, unfortunately most of them are 3 to 4 hours away from me) I feel that my offer was very fair for this market. I really hope that you will consider it. She would have a very good home and will be close by so you can get updates and come out and see her. I hope to hear from you soon and hope that you will atleast consider what I am offering. Take Care, Ashleigh.
     
    10-03-2009, 10:42 PM
  #28
Yearling
I think that sounds prefectly fine. Hopefully she will find some truth (Which it is all true but I mean in her eyes) in what you wrote and will take what you offered. Keep us updated.
     
    10-03-2009, 11:27 PM
  #29
Banned
Wow. After reading through this whole thread...****. I really, really hope you get her. Hell, I'd like to see the lady give all the minis to you. It makes me really sad knowing animals are living like this.
     
    10-03-2009, 11:51 PM
  #30
Weanling
Im just worried and kinda regret sending the emails now.. Im worried that all I've done is brass her off and now she may refuse sale I don't want that. I don't want her to refuse sale but she may now. I'd rather kiss her butt and get that filly out of there then yell at her, piss her off and have her refuse to let her go. Guy!! Feels like a hostage situation
     

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