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        10-11-2010, 04:47 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Thanks Cassandra.

    I haven't seen my hay supplier so I haven't had a chance to ask but yes, I would say it is very high octane. Cutting back his intake hasn't worked out so well as he is starved and started eating his stall and straw bedding, the little fool. I have been cutting back his pasture time as they are both coming in early now. Maybe 6 hours a day.

    I decided to put him back out in the pasture with my saddle horse and immediately they went back to frolicking together. The little guy can run like the wind even with the short little legs. It is very entertaining to watch and they clearly love to run together. Watching the two of them barrel across the field bucking and jumping together is awfully cute. I'm am going to try to catch it on video and post it up.

    I don't know if you saw my other thread about the two of them and the big fella with his buddy sour issue. I separated them about 3 weeks back and neither of them have been very happy about it.

    I put them back together as soon we will be into winter here and they will be separated anyways. I'm going to try leading them together and maybe I can teach the little fellow to follow on short rides/walks. Robbie is somewhat hard to deal with with the little guy not being around so maybe I can kill two birds with one stone and get the little fellow to pony on short rides for exercise.

    What do you think?
         
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        10-11-2010, 04:55 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Find some hay that is of lower quality and more mature. It'll have less "nutrition" but it'll keep his guts moving and give him something to do. I get a more mature meadow grass hay for my easy keepers. A grazing muzzle is probably a good idea too.

    It would be a good idea to start walking him too or if possible ponying him along with your bigger horse. I'm not sure of the logistics of that though...
         
        10-11-2010, 05:06 PM
      #13
    Foal
    I think he needs to be wormed again. Looks hay bellyish too. 7 hours of pasture is CRAZY! He needs no grass thank god the snow is coming. Otherwise he might be close to foundering.
         
        10-11-2010, 05:43 PM
      #14
    Trained
    7 hours is crazy for any animal designed to eat small of low forage quality amounts continuously? More than likely the problem is overly high quality hay combined with low exercise. According to the OP his pasture doesn't have much by way of nutrition anyways.
         
        10-11-2010, 05:47 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
    7 hours is crazy for any animal designed to eat small of low forage quality amounts continuously? More than likely the problem is overly high quality hay combined with low exercise. According to the OP his pasture doesn't have much by way of nutrition anyways.
    Well minis are not desinged to grace for 7 hours,,,secondly he is not fat otherwise he would have fat on his hios and neck, and he does not! So worming or hay would be my guess.
         
        10-11-2010, 06:03 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Well they are equines and as far as I'm aware have all the same digestive tract as a full-sized horses. So they are in fact designed to graze continously.

    They do tend to put on weight easier than say a TB, but a lot of Morgans or QHs tend to put weight on easier too.

    I'm not disagreeing that this horse needs management changes, but he doesn't need to be eating for less than 7 hrs a day.

    Again I will say you need to find a lower quality more mature forage. If he's eating straw that's a good indication that he isn't getting enough forage in his diet.

    You might also want to get a fecal test done on him too and check his body condition using a body condition score chart not just your eyes. It'll give you a better indication of where he is carrying his weight. Just google "equine body condition score chart".
         
        10-11-2010, 06:16 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LittlemanRob    
    Thanks Cassandra.

    I haven't seen my hay supplier so I haven't had a chance to ask but yes, I would say it is very high octane. Cutting back his intake hasn't worked out so well as he is starved and started eating his stall and straw bedding, the little fool. I have been cutting back his pasture time as they are both coming in early now. Maybe 6 hours a day.

    I decided to put him back out in the pasture with my saddle horse and immediately they went back to frolicking together. The little guy can run like the wind even with the short little legs. It is very entertaining to watch and they clearly love to run together. Watching the two of them barrel across the field bucking and jumping together is awfully cute. I'm am going to try to catch it on video and post it up.

    I don't know if you saw my other thread about the two of them and the big fella with his buddy sour issue. I separated them about 3 weeks back and neither of them have been very happy about it.

    I put them back together as soon we will be into winter here and they will be separated anyways. I'm going to try leading them together and maybe I can teach the little fellow to follow on short rides/walks. Robbie is somewhat hard to deal with with the little guy not being around so maybe I can kill two birds with one stone and get the little fellow to pony on short rides for exercise.

    What do you think?
    It can be a challenge to keep a mini at their "proper" weight.
    Are your only options for him, either on pasture or in a stall?

    I don't have a problem with any of mine, but they are kept in a large, "dry" paddock (so they have plenty of room to run and play together), fed a low %alfalfa/grass hay twice a day, and only allowed 2 hours on pasture each day, some times only every other day, depending on conditions.
    And when they get pasture, I reduce the amount of hay given for one feeding that day.

    They are also either being trained to drive, or are being driven.
    I also have fun lunging them around cones and over jumps and things to keep them from getting bored... (of course mine are all full grown too)
    All that helps keep their minds and bodies occupied.
    Which also keeps them from cribbing on things out of boredom.

    I did not see your other post about buddy sourness (I'll have to go peak after this)
    Sounds like the two of them just have a ball together though!
    Running around like that is good exercise for him too.
    Please DO post video, that would be fun to see!

    If you fully trust your riding horse (not to kick out, or some thing, at the little guy), and the height difference does not make it dangerous either, I suppose you could try ponying? I don't know that I've ever heard of anyone ponying a mini, but there is a first time for every thing.
    You are the only one who knows your horses, if you think they could both handle it...
    Might be a real good idea to have some one else there on the ground for safety reasons just in case, would hate for any one of the three of you to get hurt!

    Well, this turned into some thing rather lengthy didn't it?
    Eeesh, Sorry!

         
        10-11-2010, 07:58 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    This thread has been very interesting and informative for me! Rob...my 29"mini has a belly just like yours. I know it is bad...but I also like to see him graze in the pasture. I stopped giving hay...I just feed him 1/4 cup pellets (10%) twice a day. He is in the pasture about 10 hours a day, but like yours, my pasture is not exceptionally lush and rich.

    Anyway, I am just listening to all the advice. Thanks for posting, your mini is adorable!
         
        10-11-2010, 08:38 PM
      #19
    Foal
    I don't think it is worms. He was wormed a little over 2 weeks ago and will be getting done again as soon as we have our first hard frost which could be in as little as a week or two. I'm going to do both the horses and the goats all at once.

    I think I do need some lower quality hay. I've actually noticed my big fella is putting on some weight since I got it. I have a few hundred bales of it stored for winter and I'll pick up some other stuff to round it out.

    I am figuring it must be the hay and lack of real exercise. Since I've separated them I noticed he won't play much, even with the dogs. (yes the little guy runs with the dogs sometimes). I have a video of it here somewhere.

    I'll also look on the net for that body condition chart.

    As far as ponying the little fella, I will have someone on the ground. I'm inclined to think the big guy will be good with him. He is very protective of him. I have seen Robbie give him a boot because Littleman was nipping around his hocks and he was very gentle with the booting... just a tap. We'll start off just leading them for a while and see how it goes from there.

    Thanks everyone so far for your advise! I
         
        10-11-2010, 08:52 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Here is the link to Littleman and the dog playing together. Its a short clip.

         

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