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    07-19-2010, 04:40 PM
  #11
Yearling
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish that there were a flat across the board cruelty statute for all animals. Here in MN we claim to have the best laws- but you can go to jail for not cleaning your hamsters cage, but starve a horse and it's nothing. Sure there are laws on the books, but they aren't enforced for horses, cattle etc.

I went to a sale at the Winger sales barn one year and a man brought in about 15 big sows. Each sow SHOULD have weighed about 500 lbs. I bought 2 of them for 10.00 each, and they scaled at about 275 each. When have you ever seen a pig where you could see all the bones in their face, even the fat in their tails was gone. After a deworming and 2 months of free choice feed, they were fat and sassy. Both sows went on to be excellent mothers. All the man had to do was feed them.

And what did they say at the sale barn? Nothing. Said they were "just wore out". Bullcrap. They needed feed!
     
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    07-19-2010, 04:43 PM
  #12
Showing
Well, I live in the rule-choked eastern half of the U.S., so I'm not surprised our laws are more strict regarding companion animals.

I'm only 200 miles southwest of Washington, D.C., so I never had a chance!

Around here, the AC can take your livestock if a vet deems that they're not being cared for properly, but being a rural area, that means they literally have to be at death's door before AC will step in.
     
    07-19-2010, 04:52 PM
  #13
Foal
Herein Switzerland we are required to have passports for our horses, and next year heywill be licenced with the town in which they live in, maybe 40CHF a year. Our laws are very strict here, but this means that we don't have a lot of unwanted horses. It also keeps the costs high on horses. Papered horses go for a minimum of 5,000.CHF and up to 20,000. Unpapered breeds are naturally a lot cheaper . I would like to seea law that requires people to register their pets and livestock, like we do here. Farmers also register their cows pigs sheep and goat. Its really a good thing.
     
    07-19-2010, 04:58 PM
  #14
Showing
Krissy, you live in a very small country.

Trying to register, legislate, and regulate livestock in a country as large as the U.S. Would be nothing short of a logistical nightmare.

If you're not aware of the fact, U.S. Citizens can travel to all 48 contiguous states without once having to pull out a passport or ID. That's 5,000 miles of land east to west from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans, and 3,000 miles from our northernmost contiguous state to our southernmost.

We can also travel to Alaska and Hawaii without a passport, since they're a part of the U.S.

That's a whole lot of land mass in which to try and regulate livestock. Plus, states have their own laws, and Federal statutes can't be at odds with states and their rights.

It's a lot more complicated than one small country, not to mention that the U.S. Was founded on the idea of individual rights for its citizens. Which we very jealously defend.

The right to bear arms is a big one with U.S. Citizens. For me, gun control means being able to hit at what I'm aiming!
     
    07-19-2010, 05:01 PM
  #15
Foal
I would think that a kill buyer would prefer to transport large animals to kill so he gets more money for his trouble. But, minis and foals do go to slaughter. I would think that whoever is buying them for slaughter would be sure to put them all together in a stall in a stock trailer because you couldn't really mix them in with larger horses or they might not be alive when they reach the slaughterhouse. It's easy for them to get trampled by a bigger horse during transport.
At the auctions I have been to, the kill buyer doesn't bid on the little ones.
     
    07-19-2010, 05:05 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    

It's a lot more complicated than one small country, not to mention that the U.S. Was founded on the idea of individual rights for its citizens. Which we very jealously defend.
Indeed. My relatives came across the pond courtesy of British boats, just for standing up for themselves and the freedom of their country. They were dumped in the colonies as indentured slaves.

We will defend our freedom with our lives if need be.
     
    07-19-2010, 06:59 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
Do you want to have to license your horse, pay a fee, and have it wear a license tag?

Do you really want your vet to notify the county in which you live that you didn't vaccinate your horses on their set time schedule?

Do you want to have AC visit because you didn't vaccinate your licensed, tagged horse when the vets said it was due?

Do you want AC to have the ability to take your horse if it isn't licensed, tagged, and vaccinated per their statutes?

Horses should never lose their livestock status and be legally considered pets, and won't be if I have anything to say about it.
I wish people were more obligated to give their horses proper vet care, honestly

Not that having those laws do anything for cats and dogs anyway but *i* would personally have no problem getting my horse vaccinated when he was due!

Edit: But more on topic I can't really picture it either. Minis aren't so much live stock they are specialty bred little creatures. They are still horses, not dogs, but I would imagine they aren't as "mass produced" to have as much of a need to go to slaughter. I would imagine they would just be euthanized if needed.
     
    07-19-2010, 07:08 PM
  #18
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Deerly    
I wish people were more obligated to give their horses proper vet care, honestly

Not that having those laws do anything for cats and dogs anyway but *i* would personally have no problem getting my horse vaccinated when he was due!

Edit: But more on topic I can't really picture it either. Minis aren't so much live stock they are specialty bred little creatures. They are still horses, not dogs, but I would imagine they aren't as "mass produced" to have as much of a need to go to slaughter. I would imagine they would just be euthanized if needed.
I agree to everything in this post!
     
    07-20-2010, 04:57 AM
  #19
Started
Ah, but it costs money to euth and dispose of the remains, where slaughter pays!

(BTW that in no way suggests that I would send mine to slaughter over euthing, but many people DO)
     
    07-20-2010, 08:30 AM
  #20
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Deerly    
but I would imagine they aren't as "mass produced" to have as much of a need to go to slaughter.
You would be surprised. I have seem just as many backyard bred, unpapered, poorly conformed minis as I have seen large horses out there in the kill pens at Shpisy. Actually probably more. The unwanted, backyard bred horses are what feed the slaughter house, not so much "mass produced" horses. Minis are in no way exempt.
     

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