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  • Do miniature horses get slaughtered

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    07-20-2010, 08:36 AM
  #21
Foal
Of course they go to slaughter.
Even foals get slaughtered.
Absolutely barbaric in my opinion.
Vegetarian through and through.
     
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    07-20-2010, 09:53 AM
  #22
Foal
We really need horse slaughter to be legal in this country again. *Sigh* We wouldn't have half the problems we have now if we had slaughter.
     
    07-20-2010, 10:03 AM
  #23
Showing
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Originally Posted by Icyred    
We really need horse slaughter to be legal in this country again. *Sigh* We wouldn't have half the problems we have now if we had slaughter.
Slaughter for personal consumption has never been illegal in the U.S., Icy. It's only the sale of horse meat for human consumption that has been banned. Except in CA, where it's illegal to slaughter a horse at all.

I don't think neglect and abuse will stop regardless of whether or not the plants reopen, for the simple fact that some people neglect/abuse out of ignorance, while others do it because they're twisted and evil.

I've always thought the closing of the plants here in the U.S. Was a bad thing. If they're reopened, at least the animals wouldn't be subject to those long trailer rides, plus they'd be under U.S. Laws and regulations where we could keep an eye on them.

It's no more 'wrong' or 'bad' to eat horse than it is to eat cow, pig, chicken, lamb, etc. It's merely a cultural thing in the U.S.

In the last 60 years we've been conditioned to think of horses as pets, not as food animals. To other cultures, they're seen as food. Neither outlook is wrong, unless it's forcibly imposed on others.
     
    07-20-2010, 11:50 AM
  #24
Weanling
>>>>> Sure there are laws on the books, but they aren't enforced for horses, cattle etc.

And this is the key, IMO. Enforce (and if necessary reinterpret and readjust, then enforce) the laws we have before we rush to demand new ones.
     
    07-20-2010, 11:53 AM
  #25
Started
I looked up the laws in my area for vaccinations, and they are just like Draftrider's. However, I've never seen it enforced.

Indeed, enforcement is the key.
     
    07-20-2010, 12:29 PM
  #26
Banned
I think the problem is that AC has its hands full with poor animal ownership. It doesn't have the time to be checking out every cat/dog/bird/ferret/etc vaccination records. In our town, a suburb close to Pittsburgh, with a pretty decent population...we have 2 AC agents. They are both very nice people but are stretched to the max. Lets just say there are 20,000 in our town. By average, there are 20,000 pets. If even 10% are neglected, abused, unwanted...thats 2000 pets that need their attention. Add livestock to that and the number doubles.

As far as minis go...around here the are horribly over-bred. People are giving away nice minis and who knows what happens to the ones that arent so nice.
     
    07-20-2010, 12:39 PM
  #27
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by krissy3    
herein Switzerland we are required to have passports for our horses, and next year heywill be licenced with the town in which they live in, maybe 40CHF a year. Our laws are very strict here, but this means that we don't have a lot of unwanted horses. It also keeps the costs high on horses. Papered horses go for a minimum of 5,000.CHF and up to 20,000. Unpapered breeds are naturally a lot cheaper . I would like to seea law that requires people to register their pets and livestock, like we do here. Farmers also register their cows pigs sheep and goat. Its really a good thing.
Yes same in the UK, all horses have to have a passport (which the breeder SHOULD sort out when born) and Speed Racer- yes Switzerland is small but this regulation stands so horses can be transported easily throughout the whole of the EU.
     
    07-20-2010, 12:45 PM
  #28
Showing
Speedy, that's interesting to know, but the fact that the U.S. Is one nation with many diverse cultures, as well as individual states with different rights and laws, would make it difficult to administer a blanket passport for all livestock.

Besides, we're talking hundreds of thousands of animals, with more being born every year, as well as imported from other countries.

I don't think people who live outside the U.S. Understand how massive our country is, how complex our state systems are, or just how dedicated our citizens are at trying to keep the government out of our lives as much as possible.

Those of us who live in rural areas get very woofy about 'the gubmint' intruding on our lives. The less I have to see and hear about rules and regulations, the better.

Yes, it's a two edged sword, but it's better than having my life regulated down to the last fart and burp!
     
    07-20-2010, 02:00 PM
  #29
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by draftrider    
Yes they do get slaughtered. Horses are all the same, sold by the pound. Even newborn foals and pregnant mares get slaughtered.

I thought there were laws against slaughtering foal before a certain age???
     
    07-20-2010, 02:06 PM
  #30
Green Broke
Haha yeah, laws vary country to country, but that just makes things complicated! I know rules tend to be stricter here (in the UK) than elsewhere in Europe, but that mainly is to do with the sea barrier...
     

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