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post #31 of 46 Old 07-20-2010, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by QHDragon View Post
I thought there were laws against slaughtering foal before a certain age???
Sure. There is a law. They are supposed to be at least 6 months old. Which is a crock, the brokers don't care. I can show you photos of newborn foals in the slaughterhouse.

Spent a whole hour today laying in a pasture, waiting for a sparkling vampire to show up. Alas, I woke up and looked over, only to find a mound of horse crap. Sigh.
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post #32 of 46 Old 07-20-2010, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by QHDragon View Post
I thought there were laws against slaughtering foal before a certain age???
Yeah, there are.

There's also a law against murdering another human being. For some slimeballs, laws don't matter.
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post #33 of 46 Old 07-20-2010, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer View Post
Speedy, that's interesting to know, but the fact that the U.S. is one nation with many diverse cultures, as well as individual states with different rights and laws, would make it difficult to administer a blanket passport for all livestock.

Besides, we're talking hundreds of thousands of animals, with more being born every year, as well as imported from other countries.

I don't think people who live outside the U.S. understand how massive our country is, how complex our state systems are, or just how dedicated our citizens are at trying to keep the government out of our lives as much as possible.

Those of us who live in rural areas get very woofy about 'the gubmint' intruding on our lives. The less I have to see and hear about rules and regulations, the better.

Yes, it's a two edged sword, but it's better than having my life regulated down to the last fart and burp!
Very well stated.... I'm only 60 miles SW of DC

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post #34 of 46 Old 07-21-2010, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mingiz View Post
Very well stated.... I'm only 60 miles SW of DC
My deepest condolences, Mingiz.

You're down past Lexington Park, correct? Or as the locals call it, The Park.

I'm about 35 miles northeast of Lynchburg, VA in a little backwater called Red House. LOVE IT.

We gots rednecks, but don't much see them danged revenoors and polytishans!
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post #35 of 46 Old 07-21-2010, 12:25 PM
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The licencing , really keeps the backyard breeding down to a minimum, people wont reproduce as fast if they know they will have to pay for the new foal . By the way I am from The San Francisco Bay Area, I live in Switzerland , but I am still legally an American being that I have lived in America all but the last 3 years.I was very frustrated by all the laws here at first, but later I appreciated the order, and control over the countrys politics , people and animals. Every person is registered in the town they live in too, just like the animals. Because of this everyone pays taxes, follows laws, and pays child support, there are no illegal people living here, we also have subsedized health care for every single person in the country.I realize its a small country, but it would be nice if more countrys tried to douplicate their policies , or at least work towards that direction.
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post #36 of 46 Old 07-21-2010, 04:23 PM
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Krissy, if you're an American born and bred, you should understand the fierce determination of the U.S. citizenry to keep their freedoms.

Sure, Switzerland might be be safer and more secure because of the rigid laws, but you have to admit the reasons they actually work is because Switzerland compared to the U.S. is nothing more than a dot on the map, geographically speaking.

It's easier to keep track of citizenry and livestock in a small country. It also helps if people have been born to the rules and merely accept them as a way of life.

Trying to force those rules and regulations on a population that's used to moving about freely and doing as it pleases most of the time would be like trying to harness a wildcat. A very old, cantankerous, set in its ways wildcat.

I'm an accountant, so by my very nature should be all about rules, regulations, and anal retentive record keeping. I am, but only so far as it goes for my livelihood.

I won't even live anywhere that I have to deal with an HOA, because I'll be darned if I'm going to pay my hard earned money for a house and property, then have someone else tell me what color I can or can't paint it, or what lawn ornaments I can or can't have.

If I buy it, it's mine. I'll paint the danged thing purple with pink polka dots if I want, and too bad, so sad for the neighbors.

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post #37 of 46 Old 07-22-2010, 02:14 AM
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^ I share your opinion on HOAs ;)
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post #38 of 46 Old 07-22-2010, 03:23 AM
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We've just recently started introducing some registration laws and animal rights laws for livestock and boy, I tell you, countryside did not receive it well at all.

1. clamping an unique registration number to a cow's / sheep's ear and keeping a record of them, along with microchips. After furious howls of "who cares how many cows I've got?" and "microchips are the work of Devil" it has been accepted and now they see it as normal.

2. calling a vet tech to shoot the pig with a bolt-bullet, instead of the old way which consisted more or less in all the family dragging the pig out, chasing it and stabbing it with a knife. Weirdly enough the way the pig died caused more anger than the government counting their cows.

3. To improve the quality of the horse livestock, people are not allowed to own and breed stallions anymore, unless that stallion passes a sort of vet examination in which they establish he is ok for breeding.
Instead, they offer for free , for public breeding, stallions of good quality.

This last measure has just been started and it's raising a riot almost lol. It's not that Mr X thinks his cross legged giraffe-necked tiny scrawny stallion would throw some beautiful foals.
It's the local county fairs where foals and colts are sold without showing their parents and these guys were making some cash from selling them.
What I completely dont understand is who stops then to go to the good quality FREE stallion and get that foal :/

I am all for registration. That's why we have such ugly horses in this country lol. Our average cart horse has a big head, long back, big belly, short and thin legs, narrow chest and scrawny joints.
If we could get this registration thing for horses working, in 20-30 years the overall quality would be much higher.
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post #39 of 46 Old 07-26-2010, 11:04 AM
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Thank you inaclick ... yes so true ... if there were inspections , regulations etc we would have far less horses in the slaughter trucks. America is more or less out of control, and getting worse with the illegal immegrants, the taxes, the health care, and the general "lack of accountability ," I ll do what i want when I want to " attitude. Its great to have the tremendus freedom that you have living in the US, but there is a price you pay for it " innosent until proven guilty , or you have enough money" there are a lot of guilty people running about because the lawyers found loopholes in the system to protect the crimminals. Laws are not obeyed, and it wont be the criminals that suffer from a laxed judicical system, it will be you ,eventually. There needs to be some order and control in the US , its a complete mess on so many levels. I agree that its too late to help the US .... the people are too rightious.. sorry for my spelling errors
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post #40 of 46 Old 07-26-2010, 11:15 AM
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Well then krissy, I guess it's good you live in Switzerland since you're sure the U.S. is going to hell in a handbasket.
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