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        01-07-2011, 03:37 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    It has nothign to do with making them drown proof, it is strengthening their reflexes, to prevent them form fading as they get older.

    She didnt do anything wrong with that baby, you are overreacting. She is flipping him over without warning because his reaction is supposed to be instantaneous. She is in no way near haring that little boy. She never lets him get far away enough that he can become hurt, OBVIOUSLY the child is perfectly fine and has not drowned yet. If you listen to the parents talking they have been practing this with him for a while, so he is used to it.

    There is so much conflicting information from every source you can find on proper child rearing and dangers to children, all the information you posted could be found obsolete tomorrow.

    I don't get why you keep posting against it, you have made your opinion known. Now you are just trying to push your feeling on everyone... just my opinion not being rude.
         
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        01-07-2011, 07:46 AM
      #22
    Foal
    I don't want you to think that I'm just being argumentive, or trying to cause conflict - cause I'm not. And that was never my intention either. I simply came across something that was disturbing to me, posted it to see what others thought, and as I received replies I got more and more interested in the concept of "Infant Swimming" ... so I started doing more research on it (not for argumentive material, but instead for pure and utter curiousity). As I researched I found a lot of info. Then I came across the inserts that I posted in my last couple of replies. It was important information to me because most of the info I found was posted by instructors that teach infant swimming, etc. - I wanted some scientific information. That was harder to find. But if I were a person considering enrolling my baby in infant swimming lessons - I would WANT to know all the facts first - and not just facts from instructors that endorse infant swimming. I would also want to know what Doctors, Scientists, etc. think.
    So I found some valuable information, and I posted it to share it.

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    She didnt do anything wrong with that baby, you are overreacting. She is flipping him over without warning because his reaction is supposed to be instantaneous. She is in no way near haring that little boy. She never lets him get far away enough that he can become hurt, OBVIOUSLY the child is perfectly fine and has not drowned yet. If you listen to the parents talking they have been practing this with him for a while, so he is used to it.
    That is your point of view. Which you're entitled to.
    My point of view and opinion is that she DID do something wrong with the baby, I am not over reacting, he gets farther than "arms length" away from her and he shouldn't, the child personally looks startled in the video every time he's flipped, and he does not look "used to it."
    Every single person that watches this video (or any video, etc. for that matter) can perceive it in their own way with their own point of view and opinion of what's going on. I stated my opinion in my original post. I'm not trying to "push" my opinion, it's just simply "my opinion" and I'm stating the facts of "why" it's my opinion. Take it or leave it. This (above) is "your" opinion. You're stating it just like I stated mine. Just because you see the video as ok - doesn't mean that I do or that anyone else does - wether anyone else does or not. It's "your" perception and opinion.


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    There is so much conflicting information from every source you can find on proper child rearing and dangers to children, all the information you posted could be found obsolete tomorrow.
    Which is why when you research something you should base your research on credible information. I personally would think that AAP would be a very credible source. And infant swimming isn't something new that just started yesterday, it's been around for a little while now. So the AAP has had time to change their minds about the dangers they noted on their website. Yet - they haven't, which tells me that to date that is the most accurate information you can get about the matter. So unless and/or until there are "new findings" ... a person must rely on the current "findings."

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    I don't get why you keep posting against it, you have made your opinion known. Now you are just trying to push your feeling on everyone... just my opinion not being rude.
    Again, I'm not trying to push my opinion. All I was doing was posting more information that I found after posting my original thread. I did more research on infant swimming because in all honesty - it got me thinking, and got my intriqued. I even thought - maybe I would even be interested in possibly learning about "infant swimming" for MY child. So I did more research as a parent with interest. I didn't do it to prove anyone wrong, or to give argument, or even to post it on the forum - I was just doing more research because I was interested. But then I found what I did (after researching and reading at least 5 different sites pertaining to infant swimming) and after I found it I decided to share it on here just to share the information I found. I am not trying to "push my feelings" ... like I said, take it or leave it. That's up to the reader. I'm not pushing anything - just stating facts as I find them for myself.

    So no harm done - and please don't be upset - that's not the purpose of any of this.
         
        01-07-2011, 08:13 AM
      #23
    Banned
    Not saying it is or is not the case but AAP might also have the stance they have so they do not get sued if something happens.

    I do not find the video to be anything I would get upset about one way or the other.
         
        01-07-2011, 03:12 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    I'm with Julie.
    I know why they do it so please no arguing but it bothered me as the baby was being flipped and dunked. I had my husband watch this too and he said it was horrible. He said that he seemed like the lady was tossing him around like a toy in water. That is our opinion. This is a very interesting topic and there is still a lot of research that needs to be done more than likely.

    I am sooo glad that I am not going to have kids. 1.) I'm not ready 2.) I don't want kids 3.) I'm a high risk pregnancy if I were to have a kid.

    Soooo if I do want kids I will adopt but for now being 22 years old I am just happy trying to figure out my own life,being married,and enjoying my pets :)

    Good thread.
    I like readin others opinions and thoughts.
         
        01-08-2011, 02:25 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Not saying it is or is not the case but AAP might also have the stance they have so they do not get sued if something happens.
    I find that quite plausible and very probable. :)
         
        01-08-2011, 02:50 AM
      #26
    Banned
    My sister did this with her two children and at 4 and 2.5 now, they both swim. She also taught them both to sign language and they were able to do this before they could speak, she is the most attentive mother I know.

    I will do it with my own children, if and when I have them. I would want my babies to be as safe as possible around every potential hazard.

    In England we have a public pools in most towns which are very low cost to use, and it is very common to see this happening there.


    Lots of babies swim under water obviously with parental supervision.



    I do not think for one second that the baby in the original post is being flipped like a toy. Have you ever seen a baby being dressed by a parent and the pulling of limbs that happens? All this mom is doing is turning her baby over, she is not flipping it like a toy.
         
        01-08-2011, 03:06 AM
      #27
    Banned
    I left it too late to edit my last post, I am sorry.

    But watch this video, I can't imagine why anyone would think that it is not a good idea to have the baby experience this while supervised by a parent.

         
        01-08-2011, 02:04 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    I left it too late to edit my last post, I am sorry.

    But watch this video, I can't imagine why anyone would think that it is not a good idea to have the baby experience this while supervised by a parent.

    YouTube - bebe nadando imprecionante

    That is amazing!!!!!!!

    With this video I can see the importance. I knew the importance of why it was done before but seeing this really opened my eyes. Thank You Alex. I am not so against it now
         
        01-08-2011, 02:12 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    I don't care what their trying to teach this baby- it's the stupidest idea I have ever heard in my life. It's a friken' baby for god sake!
         
        01-08-2011, 04:03 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Yeah it is a baby, and should an accident really happen because they do even if you are the bestest mommy in the world, those babies have a much lower chance of drowning.

    What if you are not the one watching your baby? Not all of us can be stay at home moms who have every second of the day to watch our babies, what then? Wouldnt you want to give your baby every chance to save itself just in case?

    That swim float technique was quite amazing to see, obviously"just babies" can think and comprehend a lot more than some people think they do. Crazy to see a one year old able to choreograph his movements like that, that in my opinion is amazing!

    Should I ever have a kid, I think I would want to give it every chance I could. Not only for safety, but for enrichment also. To me it is just rational(and good parenting) to expect accidents to happen and to try to prepare for them as best we can.
         

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