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post #11 of 1616 Old 06-29-2010, 02:47 PM
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Well at least you got to the 2nd dvd. I couldn't pass even 1st one how boring it was.
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I'm a dog trainer, and I mention that because when I watched the DVDs I thought....hmmm, this is kinda like Cesar Milan. He also made up new, feel good words for things people have been doing with dogs forever, and he also has a habit of using methods that are sometimes counter productive.

Yes, THANK YOU!!!!

I've called Cesar Milan the Pat Parelli of the dog world for quite some time now. Glad someone else sees it too!
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I think you'd have to learn a whole new language too. I've read a few threads on PP in the beginning, just out of mild interest to see what it was all about and honest to god, I felt I needed a translation tool to understand some of the terminology that is used.
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I just don't see how it translates to saddle work.
Not sure about Parelli, but things like sidepass, bending, and lowering the head go easier in saddle if they know them on ground.
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I'm a dog trainer, and I mention that because when I watched the DVDs I thought....hmmm, this is kinda like Cesar Milan. He also made up new, feel good words for things people have been doing with dogs forever, and he also has a habit of using methods that are sometimes counter productive.

Oh well. Onward.
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Yes, exactly the same thing.

Whenever someone asks me a dog training question and then tosses in "I saw that Cesar guy on TV do it this way" I have to bite my tongue.
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Yes, THANK YOU!!!!

I've called Cesar Milan the Pat Parelli of the dog world for quite some time now. Glad someone else sees it too!
When I took my animal behaviorology classes at the you our professors (all veterinarians with a specialization in behavior) HATED Cesar. Said he was just about the worse thing to happen to dog training. The only thing they thought he did correctly was encourage people to exercise their dogs. Everything else was just as likely to create more problems than it solved.
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MN, that just makes him more like PP....

And I must say, the dog trainers I know agree completely with you (MN).
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AB - Yeah, all the dog trainers I know highly dislike him also.
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Parelli is marketed to middle aged women afraid of their horses


THAT could not be anymore true! My is at a barn run by a woman I've know for 5 or so years. Love her to death, but she is SO timid around her horses. Not so much during ever day handling, but with just about everything else. She has a Parelli group that meets there for "play days" and it's for the most part, all the same thing!

Parelli from what I've seen practiced by these women, is only *nudge, please? Nudge, please?* If you wanted to go the "Natural Horsemanship Route" I prefer Clinton Anderson's methods. For the most part they are pretty similar, but Clinton teaches you how to ask, ask, Tell. He's going to get the job done without all the mushy stuff inbetween.

I do like some of the parelli points with his "Horsenality" stuff, but I just could never spend my money and time watching the DVDs and buying the halters and sticks.
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Everyone at my barn does Parelli. They all seem to like it, the horses seem trained, so when someone lent me their level 1 DVD I figured why not I'll give it a try. Managed to sit through the first 2 discs last night. I couldn't do more because I was bored out of my skull. I could have done perfectly well without listening to Linda talk about herself and then watching a group of people swing a string.

But I figured it has to get better once they get all the talking and string stuff out of the way. Popped in the second DVD and now we are told to make your horse back up you wave both hands at him, get closer and closer and if he refuses to move smack him on the face til he does.

Doesn't this just create a horse that is headshy?

Then the other way to make him back up is to swing the lead rope at him till you are whipping it around and he finally backs up. Again....why? Can't you just use lead pressure?

Teaching them to move from pressure with the stick seemed like sound advice as far as I could tell so I don't have much to nitpick at in that area.

I'll be first to admit that I am not a horse trainer. I owned a horse 11 years ago and did a lot of jumping for about 6 years, but after that I hadn't owned a horse again until recently. So I have a 11 year gap in my knowledge. There's a lot I don't know anymore.

Am I missing something when it comes to Parelli?

Does it get better as the course progresses? Or would I be wasting my time sitting through the next 6 or so DVDs? I'm willing to pop them in and give it a go if there's useful info there, but I also don't want to waste hours of my life I'll never get back if there isn't.

Thank you in advance for any insight.


After an appropriate time passes you might refer to this time in your life like people that lived through the 70's.

You know, you bring out the old photos of the crazy haircuts and when you were dressed up in Disco cloths.....UGH!

Is that really me with the carrot stick in my hand?

OH NO! I can't believe I did that!

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