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    02-14-2011, 04:12 PM
  #11
Weanling
Let me get this right:
You're 17 years old, autistic and you make "tons of money" with horses. You studied Pat's program and learned lots of what you know but it wasn't the program that taught you because "the program" is mostly BS - right. Oh yes I won't forget this one - you don't know what roundpenning is but you watched a few of Pat's DVDs. Well I'm convinced that you are a hugely skilled horseman - not. You think because I mention approach and retreat I am doing something wrong... thanks Christopher good luck making "lots of money with horses" as I know there a virtually no people that earn tons of money with horses. Here I'll give you a simple business lesson so that it'll help you determine what you actually earn:

(Add up all the money you collect) - (Add up all your expenses ) = the net revenue

Still making lots of money...
     
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    02-14-2011, 04:15 PM
  #12
Weanling
Apachiedragon the appy is FEARFUL not DISRESPECTFUL. You must focus when you read
     
    02-14-2011, 04:27 PM
  #13
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher    
this is something i've always wondered when I hear a parelli say this, do you all know exactly when to approach and when to retreat? Or are you just doing it at regular intervals?

Because unless your "approaching" when your horse is "retreating", and your "retreating" when your horse is "approaching" (applies to everything when it comes to horses, it's the theory of pressure/release also known as negative reinforcment) there is no point at all and your creating unconfidence in the horse.

You approach your horse and when he does what you want you retreat.

Example:

Approach your horse with a tarp and even though he's scared he stands still, you retreat. (the approach is the test, the retreat is the award)
     
    02-14-2011, 04:40 PM
  #14
Weanling
Sissygobob you're right. If Christopher really did watch the DVDs he would know about roundpenning and also approach/retreat. I'm starting to wonder how much you actually learned from PP. I love learning and not just from PP but his program is well organized, and well thought out.
     
    02-14-2011, 04:43 PM
  #15
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
Sissygobob you're right. If Christopher really did watch the DVDs he would know about roundpenning and also approach/retreat. I'm starting to wonder how much you actually learned from PP. I love learning and not just from PP but his program is well organized, and well thought out.

Yeah I have never watched a PP DVD only saw him on tv...... I learned that from several horse trainers..... and common sence lol
     
    02-14-2011, 04:51 PM
  #16
Trained
Loved one-difference is others are not obnoxious about their approach to others. I find your attitude quite typical of what I HATE about Parelli-ites. Unfortunately, I think that even tho there are relatively few like you, it is like the old saying...."one bad apple..". Totally turns me off to PP and his cult like followers. I think that is what turns so many others off too. You have NO tolerance at all, and act like you are the be-all end-of of the horsey world. Well-here is a news flash-you are not, and neither is PP. You may like his DvD's-great! Many of us find them extremely BORING.....ZZZZZZZ!!!!! Yes, he does have some good techniques, but so do others.
And-BTW-I agree with Apachie-the horse may well be fearful, but I think he is also disrepectful, and for sure lacks training! JMHO. And yeah-I read it, and paid attention. Thanks. We will all have to be more careful of our every word in the presence of "the perfect one".
Get over yourself.
     
    02-14-2011, 05:29 PM
  #17
Weanling
Franknbeans I find it interesting that you find Parelli so boring when you admit that you cannot teach your horse the games. You are very insulting. BTW your idols Chris Cox and Clinton Anderson are actually teaching very similar things to Pat Parelli. When you're at the Road to the Horse hopefully you can finally see that.
     
    02-14-2011, 05:33 PM
  #18
Weanling
Yeah I noticed Clinton anderson and parelli do the exact same things...
     
    02-14-2011, 05:42 PM
  #19
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarahandlola    
Yeah I noticed Clinton anderson and parelli do the exact same things...
That's because none of them have created anything new

They each just package their program slightly differently and to different demographics.

Ray Hunt, Tom and Bill Dorrance... those are the real fathers of 'natural' horsemanship. Nothing any of the big name clinicians are doing is new.
     
    02-14-2011, 06:27 PM
  #20
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
Franknbeans I find it interesting that you find Parelli so boring when you admit that you cannot teach your horse the games. You are very insulting. BTW your idols Chris Cox and Clinton Anderson are actually teaching very similar things to Pat Parelli. When you're at the Road to the Horse hopefully you can finally see that.
Actually, if YOU were paying attention when YOU read, you would note that (a) I have 2 horses. (b) the one I was "unable" to teach the games to, is semi-retired and now 22 yrs old. He doesn't see the point, and neither do I. The other, one the other hand, is actually AT a Parelli barn, and is pretty good at the games. Thanks.

Secondly, again, if you paid attention, I do not have any "idols". I believe they ALL have something to offer, and every horse needs different "tools". I prefer to keep my mind open to all of them, rather than shutting it behind PP.
     

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