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post #21 of 153 Old 02-14-2011, 07:40 PM
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I don't know what you have against me FranknBeans but from the moment I joined this forum you have insulted me again and again. I do not appreciate your comments about shutting behind PP whatever that means lol. I am not hateful towards any clinician. In fact, I do have an open mind but it is you that is so very hateful towards Parelli and the only reason I can see is because you were unable to teach it and that some people have made you upset. Now I think it is you that needs to grow up a bit.

Yeah Parelli is nothing new we did much of it in the 70s and the other NH clinicians are doing pretty much the same stuff too. I always laugh when I hear things like I hate Parelli but love Clinton Anderson ... like why.
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One more time, just for those with reading comprehension issues-I do not hate Parelli, nor do I idolize or love anyone else. Yes, I prefer CA, since he also shows how to handle typical things that can go wrong when training many horses, whereas, PP does not. If I hated PP, would I be at a PP barn, working with a PP certified instructor?
What I dislike are the Parelli followers who can resemble cult members. Plain and simple.
So that you understand my reference, I remain to practitioners. That means that PP is not the only one I listen to, shutting out all others.
Sorry my "attitude" annoys you. This is a forum, and you are not my mother, nor may you insult me or any other woman by calling me a "housewife" via PM. Really?

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One more time, just for those with reading comprehension issues-I do not hate Parelli, nor do I idolize or love anyone else. Yes, I prefer CA, since he also shows how to handle typical things that can go wrong when training many horses, whereas, PP does not. If I hated PP, would I be at a PP barn, working with a PP certified instructor?
What I dislike are the Parelli followers who can resemble cult members. Plain and simple.
So that you understand my reference, I remain to practitioners. That means that PP is not the only one I listen to, shutting out all others.
Sorry my "attitude" annoys you. This is a forum, and you are not my mother, nor may you insult me or any other woman by calling me a "housewife" via PM. Really?

I agree. I started with PP and loved it but once I was introduced to CA I took my horse to a whole new level. I thik CA is a better teacher. Every time he teaches you something he shows you what might go wrong and explains how to correct it. PP always seems to work with well trained horses that seem to already know is methods at least on his levels 1-4 dvd's I'v seen a couple videos on his "members only" page where he is working with a green horse but I really had to search. Whereas CA seems to always work with green horses. I do feel both teach basically the same thing I just think you will accomplish your goal faster and with less guessing and questions using CA....just my opinion :)
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Sissygobob you're right. If Christopher really did watch the DVDs he would know about roundpenning and also approach/retreat. I'm starting to wonder how much you actually learned from PP. I love learning and not just from PP but his program is well organized, and well thought out.
Would be nice if he could ride and could actually get the horses to do things correctly though.

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I always laugh when I hear things like I hate Parelli but love Clinton Anderson ... like why.
Can not say I love CA but at least he has proven what he dose works in front of and among his piers by an independent judge.

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You approach your horse and when he does what you want you retreat.

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Approach your horse with a tarp and even though hes scared he stands still, you retreat. (the approach is the test, the retreat is the award)
that's what i mean by when your approaching, the horse is retreating, and when you're retreating, the horse is approaching.

if the horse does neither and is oblivious to it, approach with it untill the horse shows signs of fear, then if the horse runs away (or "retreats") you follow ("approach") them, teaching them that running away ("retreating") isn't an effective way out of the pressure. but if curiosity overcomes in the horse and the horse "approaches" the tarp to touch it (nose neck maybe the feet), don't wait for him to touch it, walk away ("retreat") with it the moment he takes a step in it's direction ("approaches"), then up the ante later.

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Sissygobob you're right. If Christopher really did watch the DVDs he would know about roundpenning and also approach/retreat. I'm starting to wonder how much you actually learned from PP. I love learning and not just from PP but his program is well organized, and well thought out.
flattering. i am (not too proud to be) level 4+ of his program and it's been suggested to me that i become a parelli professional, which i am seriously considering just because having such an endorsment behind me would get me more customers.

in his DVDs i don't beleive parelli ever teaches roundpenning. he teaches liberty, but on line is a prerequisite for his version of liberty, that he says himself. if you tried liberty before doing any on line with a horse whatsoever, THEN you'd be roundpenning, and if you follow liberty methods when roundpenning a wild horse, you're complicating it further than need be. the concepts are the same but the methods vary greatly.

as i've said before, parelli is not good horsemanship, only good horsemanship is and ever will be good horsemanship. parelli's just a way of learning it. same goes for countless other DIY horse training programs, as the only difference is the programs. the concepts are all exactly the same, and have all been exactly the same since i imagine the first horse was ever tamed by man.

all you need to know is level 1, and how to up the ante; so perhaps level 2. and with consistency, before you know it you'll be level 8.
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I have been trying to decide on a good hosemanship series and I am thinking really hard about getting this one. It is just so much money to pay that I want to be sure... I am glad that you started this thead.. am looking forward to the input!

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I have not studied CA in great depth and think that it's great that he's helping you achieve your goals NRHAREINER. Your comments are interesting. But I do have to say that PP does also compete and has been competing I think working cow and such type events. He is also competing at the Road to the Horse and in the past has won many colt starting competitions. I have also seen him handle young greenies but yes he says himself that he doesn't want to show you what things look like when they go wrong. Instead he wants to show how things look when they're done right. So I guess it's a different philosophy.

I think what his levels program does is teach what you need to know in an organized manner with a lot of structure. I think it's a good format for a lot people from beginners to people that have holes in their knowledge and to people that are curious about what it's all about. For me I already practiced much of it but I also discovered holes in my process for starting horses. It changed my approach in some ways but overall as I say this is nothing new but I still did learn from him.
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The Parellis have this club called the Saavy Club which contains a vault of video clips for members to watch. In those video clips there is quite a lot of horse handling/riding with horses that are having some challenges.
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I have not studied CA in great depth and think that it's great that he's helping you achieve your goals NRHAREINER.

Never said CA was helping me achieve my goals. That is what a real trainer is for not some DVD Trainer.


Your comments are interesting. But I do have to say that PP does also compete and has been competing I think working cow and such type events.

Ya if you can actually call that competing.

He is also competing at the Road to the Horse and in the past has won many colt starting competitions.

Again that is not competing that is a bunch of clinicians showing off for their followers.

I have also seen him handle young greenies but yes he says himself that he doesn't want to show you what things look like when they go wrong. Instead he wants to show how things look when they're done right. So I guess it's a different philosophy.

Thing is if people do not see what to do when things go wrong then they will not know what to do to fix it. Seeing things go correctly does nothing to help fix things.
Ex: I can know a horse is turning wrong all day long. However if I do not know how to fix that problem it will not help knowing it is wrong. I need to see how to fix what is wrong.


I think what his levels program does is teach what you need to know in an organized manner with a lot of structure. I think it's a good format for a lot people from beginners to people that have holes in their knowledge and to people that are curious about what it's all about. For me I already practiced much of it but I also discovered holes in my process for starting horses. It changed my approach in some ways but overall as I say this is nothing new but I still did learn from him.
Problem is is that system does not work for every horse in every situation and every person. Yet PP seems to like to market as it does. It is find to use bits and pieces to help fill in areas where needed. However no program will fill every hole.

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