Originally Posted by SissyGoBob
You approach your horse and when he does what you want you retreat.
Approach your horse with a tarp and even though he's scared he stands still, you retreat. (the approach is the test, the retreat is the award)
that's what I mean by when your approaching, the horse is retreating, and when you're retreating, the horse is approaching.
If the horse does neither and is oblivious to it, approach with it untill the horse shows signs of fear, then if the horse runs away (or "retreats") you follow ("approach") them, teaching them that running away ("retreating") isn't an effective way out of the pressure. But if curiosity overcomes in the horse and the horse "approaches" the tarp to touch it (nose neck maybe the feet), don't wait for him to touch it, walk away ("retreat") with it the moment he takes a step in it's direction ("approaches"), then up the ante later.
Originally Posted by TheLovedOne
Sissygobob you're right. If Christopher really did watch the DVDs he would know about roundpenning and also approach/retreat. I'm starting to wonder how much you actually learned from PP. I love learning and not just from PP but his program is well organized, and well thought out.
flattering. I am (not too proud to be) level 4+ of his program and it's been suggested to me that I become a parelli professional, which I am seriously considering just because having such an endorsment behind me would get me more customers.
In his DVDs I don't beleive parelli ever teaches roundpenning. He teaches liberty, but on line is a prerequisite for his version of liberty, that he says himself. If you tried liberty before doing any on line with a horse whatsoever, THEN you'd be roundpenning, and if you follow liberty methods when roundpenning a wild horse, you're complicating it further than need be. The concepts are the same but the methods vary greatly.
As i've said before, parelli is not good horsemanship, only good horsemanship is and ever will be good horsemanship. Parelli's just a way of learning it. Same goes for countless other DIY horse training programs, as the only difference is the programs. The concepts are all exactly the same, and have all been exactly the same since I imagine the first horse was ever tamed by man.
All you need to know is level 1, and how to up the ante; so perhaps level 2. And with consistency, before you know it you'll be level 8.