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Anyone 'For' Parelli??

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#1 ·
Looking for people who are into Parelli.

If you do parelli let us know what level your working on, about your horse, what got you into parelli etc. have you been to any parelli clinics? And anything else you what to share.I want this thread to NOT be a parelli bashing thread if your not into it don't comment. :lol: If you are i'd like to hear from you and im sure others would to.

I'll start:

My names Brooke, im 15 I have one horse, Abbi. She's an australian stock horse type, 12 yr's old. Abbi was pretty dominant and pushy when i got her but she's alot better now.

I went to the celibration in Australia in Sydney i think it was march 09, and thats what really got me into parelli.

Abbi and I are currently just playing around with lots of ground work and some riding with her just playing with different obsticals, jumps, tarps, bending poles and barrels etc.

Hope to here from some parelli enthusiasts. :D
 
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#92 ·
I believe her name is Jennifer. I don't know the last name, but she's a five star who's the cousin of my 3 star trainer who's helping me now. We're in the South Texas area, if that helps :)

Wow that sounds awesome! Haha Kelty would love that- he loves moving other horses around.
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#93 ·
I think it is a scam. Parelli's merchandise is way too expensive when there is no need for it. His "carrot stick", I saw one at my local feed store for $11.... not $64. And anyone can buy a way cheaper rope halter or even make their own.

His methods are nothing new... people have been using them for centuries. Not that I have anything against him but it is all too expensive for the average horse lover.
 
#95 ·
Ray, while I agree about the carrot stick (as I had a chance to compare "professional" vs cheap one from the Expo and couldn't find any difference) there is a discussion going on in "Parelli-positive" thread about Parelli halters you may want to look into. Even non-Parelli people admit they are very nice! I've never seen one, but would be very curious to see for myself.

And I agree with gypsygirl we had quite enough of heat-up discussion in this thread already and don't need any more.
 
#96 ·
I'm not sure if anyone Parelli is still posting here, but as a question if they are, did you guys find the DVD's easy or difficult to follow? I had a heck of a time, my Paint filly will NOT do "hide the hinny" as my Parelli friend calls it. She can do most of Level One and even she couldn't get her to do it.

Did you work solely with the assistance of the DVD's or did you employ outside help? I enjoyed the groundwork side of it, I love learning new things and I think I may contact a Parelli instructor for a couple of lessons. I don't think I'll be an avid Parelli follower, but I enjoy adding tools to my arsenal kit of horse training!
 
#97 ·
they're easy to follow.

the catch is you have to modify it yourself to fit your horse, otherwise you'll be doing what parelli "wackos" do (follow a step by step program that hasn't been adapted for the individual), which creates dull and pushy horses who hate the sight of their owners.

when i was new i employed a few people to help, but they were mostly parelli "wackos" so they really didn't teach me anything new and just repeated exactly what pat said in the DVDs.

but if you have a good mind you'll be able to pick out the important stuff and modify it to suit your own training, which is never a bad thing.

the concepts pat teaches are sound, but the methods of achieving them he teaches are debatable, much like all horse trainers, the best horsemen/women use all sorts of different methods for the individual horse, based on the same sound principles.

and also, never listen to linda, she's pretty insane.
 
#98 ·
i have never actually watched the videos [too expensive and i dont know anyone who lives around me that has them] but what problems are you having ? where do you get stuck ?
 
#99 ·
Im still here :) I just never posted after because I don't need parelli bashers on the horse forum bringing me down. I love my life, and I love how well things are going with my horse and I wanted 'for' Parelli people to be able to share that.

Ahh well. I just would like to say thankyou to the people who are 'for' parelli and posted, keep having fun and learning with your horse.
 
#101 ·
I just did :) hehe it's very good. And about time.
 
#103 ·
Thank you very much :)
 
#104 ·
I don't get it! Why is capitalism so despised when it comes to Parelli? He has a good product, good advertising, a worldwide following, and therefore, people are willing to pay a lot for his products. Its just like anything... Oreos vs. Generic oreos. What tastes better? Thusly, what is more expensive? Hmmm...

well I am content to continue this thread as it was originally intended to be used. I like parelli. I find it is unique, open minded, gentle, and logical.

My reining trainer was Arab national champion alternate for western pleasure... She is also working on her 2 star parelli certification and she is AWESOME. Never have I had more fun with my horse.

I also bought a Parelli book on Amazon for $8, and it was just what I wanted... Great ideas and very inspiring.
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#105 ·
Ok following the Parelli program can be cheap. At least up to level 3. I myself am at level 3. I could move on to level 4 but my horse won't be ready for a while. However, I could technically watch it and understand it but I have no need for level 4 at this moment.

So if anyone is interested in doing level 1-3 I suggest you use any rope halter if you can't afford a Parelli one, a 22 ft rope(you can buy similar length at tack shop), and a stick (you can buy a cheaper one if needed). However if you can afford his product, it's well made and lasts a long time.

Now once you have all the equipment you can join the savvy club for just $10 a month. I found it helpful. You may just want to join the club and not buy the dvd's.
You can borrow the dvd's. So if you borrow the dvd's and join the club that's only $120 a year for doing Parelli.

Now they do have some additional dvd's that you may want to purchase at some point but you don't have to have them to go through the levels.

That's all you need! Other stuff like obstacles you can make yourself. I find Parelli affordable.

*If you get stuck at some level you can get a Parelli instructor out a couple of times. I heard they are very helpful.
 
#106 ·
Approach and retreat is all about reading your horse. If you are playing the friendly game and your horse is backing away from the savvy string, then you should allow your horse to relax and become confident in you again by retreating. Walk away while rythmically hitting the ground with your savvy string. Then, as your horse begins to relax again, reapproach him with the carrot stick and work your way back to throwing the string rythmically onto all zone but his delicate zone. You can go back to this at anytime that you feel your horse is getting nervous or lacking confidence.
 
#110 ·
you can do parelli with out the string, i do. what tools someone uses is not all that important really, its the method. just because your horses know this as weanlings, doesnt mean everyones horse does. i got mine at 3 knowing nothing.
 
#111 ·
If a human finds a string to be useful then go for it. I've seen the "traditional people" do all sorts of weird things like tying heads down, tying heads sideways, draw reins, etc. What about spurs. I have never "needed" them why do people use them. I can do all the movements including canter pirouette without them and then there's the bit ... I could go on
 
#114 ·
No. I have lost count of the amount of Parelli arguments I have had, none end well, and more and more people are taking a step back from his 'methods and 'ideas' after plenty of recent videos depicting himself and his wife doing nothing more than abusing, scaring, and ruining a variety of horses. Of course the minute these videos are brought to the public eye Parelli and his minions go around and make sure every trace of this is removed from the internet, we all remember the 'Catwalk' video, and recently I complained on a Linda video where she was busy yanking a shy arabs head off for about 30 minutes trying to 'teach him a lesson' I have yet to know what lesson that is.

Pat seems to think that 'Natural horsemanship' was invented by him and that unless you spend a fortune 'little people' in the world do not have a hope in hell of ever getting 'undertsanding' from their horses, which is of course toffee. I do not and will not ever use his methods, games, to gain results, nor will I poke a horse into submission. My mare can perform a variety of tricks including spanish walk lie down etc, be ridden bareback, bridless and jumped in the same manner, a carrot stick did not create this bond, friendship, fun, handling, time, and effort created this.

I am well aware I will probably get plenty of stick from writing this. But I have a right as much as anyone else to state my opinion :)
 
#117 ·
If every single Parelli thread goes south, maybe the Parelli-ites should explore the reasons? I'm not being snarky, I'm being sincere. On every horse forum I've ever been on, the only thread guaranteed to take a turn for the worse is a thread about Parelli. If he didn't market himself as the be-all end-all, and if he actually acknowledged that there are other effective ways to get the same results, and if he acknowledged that all horses are different... then maybe the "haters" wouldn't hate so much? It's his marketing methods and his know-it-all attitude that turns experienced horse people off of him. JMO!
 
#118 ·
Totally agree. It's not only that though. He advertises himself as a man with experience, talent etc etc, where as everything I have ever seen of him screams the opposite, his approach is anything but natural, he contradicts himself 'No pressure needed' and 'Take the time so it takes less time' then when his shows dont go how he would like he resorts to tying horses down and forcing them to give into pressure. There are 15 year old girls on youtube who have a deeper understanding of what it is to have a true bond with your horse, and none of them study parelli, they use common sense, and spend time with their horses. As time goes on im more and more disgusted with the photographs, videos etc that keep cropping up, one was of a foal (Very much doubt if it was even weaned) being guided by use of ropes etc over a log. Why.

I even watched one of his 'demonstrations' and saw nothing but a bunch of bored, brain dead horses who resembled zombies. Completely and utterly turned into ghosts of their former selves due to continual prodding, poking, submission games. When I play at liberty I like to see my horse full of spark, I want fire, playfulness passion. The exact opposite of the drones turned out by parelli, on ropes 'playing' sadly with a giant ball. That is not playing, that is doing as they are told to do, or they fear a rope, or carrot stick may once again be implemented. Turn a horse out with a ball, THAT is playing.

Im afraid, with all parelli discussions, they usually start leaning towards the dislike, and then they get removed as many of the parelli followers do not like people questioning them, they are usually blinded and think that they are the only ones with a deep relationship. Mine is built on equality, time, trust and fun, theirs is built on submission and repetition. I know what way I choose...
 
#119 ·
Aww. I thought you guys finally had it!! I neither pro nor con. "different stroke for different folks." But I was reading this thread and was happy to see you finally get to chat with each other. I was recently given the first level of the DVD series. Haven't had a chance to watch so I've formed no opinions... So when I saw the parelli thread I clicked it. So sad. Maybe next time?
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#120 ·
I like Parelli. I've never had bad experiences with techniques and never run into anything violent or cruel or negative in the way of training. I know of many horses that love the games and many who were literally saved by the program.

I am not even a savvy club member. I bought several books and watch parelli online or on TV whenever I can. My trainer is going to parelli school in the fall and she is amazing.
The concepts are refreshing and I enjoy Pats works. I will root for Parelli.

It gets a lot of hate not because its bad, but because with extreme popularity comes extreme love. And extreme hate.

I am neither extreme. I LIKE Parelli, and I've never met anyone in person who has tried the program or ideas and hates it.

Y'all go check out a user named Indy or indyhorse from France and then say Parelli is a load of poop.
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#121 ·
and I've never met anyone in person who has tried the program or ideas and hates it.
I've used it. I tried it out for quite a while. And the more I learned the more I was turned off. And the more I used it, the less I liked what it did to my horses. I still say, like any other "program" there are good and bad things. Tidbits CAN be used in concert with other methods to get good results. They are not PP's tidbits though, he got them from somewhere else too, even though he'd never admit it. But as a stand alone, "this is the ONLY WAY TO DO IT" program, like so many of the rabid followers want to call it, I am far from impressed. And that's putting it nicely. Very nicely. I will say he has one heck of a marketing team.
 
#125 ·
Like I said- in person. And I know, in real life, boatloads of Parelli diehards that wouldn't say its the only way to do things. That's a blanket statement. And he doesn't say he is the god of horses and created horse training. I dont understand where people get that from. I could quote you from his books how he talks about REdiscovering, not invention.

some people like it, some people dont. And that's normal. But anyone taking the stance that Parelli is absolutely useless and a scam or doesn't work is just wrong. There are too many people and horses that demonstrate otherwise to shout that. ESPECIALLY on a thread meant to be positive. If anyone wants to share extremist blanket statements like that, why can't they start their own thread? Heck give 'em their own sub forum. "Anti parelli hatefest"
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