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    01-10-2010, 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
Bits are for refinement and clearer communication, not for control.

Don't you NEED the clearest communication at the beginning of training? Later when the horse has a better understanding of what you want the communication doesn't need to be quite so clear.
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    01-10-2010, 11:07 PM
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^^ Yup. Seems like most people reverse that nowadays with their contorted ideas of "vaquero"(sp?) type training...No offense meant toward anyone.

Tom goes great in a bit, any bit, but lately I just ride him in a rope halter., not because I have grand delusions of a better connection or going more natural, but because we are both comfortable with it and we just ride around home anyway...
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    01-10-2010, 11:21 PM
I always teach my horses to ride well in a rope halter, snaffle bit, and a mild curb (for showing), I usually start them in the rope halter, just personal preference, more so than anything on my part.
    01-11-2010, 12:29 AM
Yes, some bitless bridles do use leverage.
Curious - Could you give an example (picture) of a bitless bridle, NOT a mechanical hackamore, that uses leverage?
    01-11-2010, 01:33 AM
I am with Kevin on this one. I can ride any of my horses in whatever I choose; halter, bosal, snaffle, curb. However, they learn the finesse from the bit before I ever put them into a halter. That way it carries over instead of having to be taught finesse with something that by nature has no finesse. A well trained horse should be just as responsive in a flat nylon halter as they are in any bit. If they aren't, then it's rider/trainer error.

I like the looks of that riding halter that matisan posted. I think that would work well on horses that don't neck rein. If they do neck rein though, there is no need for that, a regular halter works just as well.
    01-13-2010, 09:40 PM
I teach horses to do very basic things in the halter (rope halter hackamore) that doesn't need a bit. I'm not asking for flexion, I'm not looking for collection, I just want the horse to get the idea. Once he understands the idea, that's when I move to a bit to ask for more accuracy.
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    01-14-2010, 04:57 PM
Curious - Could you give an example (picture) of a bitless bridle, NOT a mechanical hackamore, that uses leverage?
Spirithorse - Could you answer this?
    01-14-2010, 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Spirithorse - Could you answer this?
Was wondering the same thing. Also, a hackamore without leverage??
    01-14-2010, 06:19 PM
Yes i've ridden bitless. But NOT a hackamore, they put pressure on the nose bone of the horse and can cause long term damage. But there are other bridles you can get, like the halters othe people said and there is one where it crosses underneath the jaw and leads in to the reins, kinda confusing but works well! Although its not for every horse, it just depends! A heady pony that tends to think their the boss... personally I wouldn't use it on them!
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    01-14-2010, 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by XxFUDGEISTHEBOMBxX    
yes i've ridden bitless. But NOT a hackamore, they put pressure on the nose bone of the horse and can cause long term damage.
Very very unlikely to happen.

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