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post #91 of 98 Old 02-14-2011, 07:02 PM
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My Arabian Gelding uses a Hackamore and while I haven't mounted him since I purchased and moved him to our new boarding facility, he did well with it when I rode him before I moved him. I am looking to replace the hackamore that I bought from his previous owner and saw a few bitless bridals on ebay that can be customized to your own specifications... either rope or leather. Might be worth a look. Its a hard decision.
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post #92 of 98 Old 02-14-2011, 07:07 PM
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^^Indeed nrha, it's amazing how many people don't understand that. So many people deal with horses that fidget and 'creep' when they are supposed to be still and think nothing of it, like that's normal. Just letting a young horse stand after a decent workout does wonders for their thinking ability .

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post #93 of 98 Old 02-14-2011, 07:10 PM
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Each horse is a bit different. I wish I could remember where I first got all the info from. It was a reiner I know and I think it might have been the NRHA reiner did an article about it.

For the moving part it is quite simple. You give them a cue to relaxes. I simply train my horse to relax when I pick up on the reins. This helps is so many situations. To train this each horse is a bit different so I can not even really say exactly how I do it as each of my horses where a bit different and some even have a bit different cue. My stallion is not about the reins but my legs.

I also make sure that stopping is ALWAYS a safe place. Just about every time I stop my horse we sit for about 2 min give or take a bit. I want them to know that stopping means they get to rest and relax. By doing this when they get spooked or scared I just sit down and say whoa. They know that the stop means they can relax and are safe. This is quite easy to train and I have found works in many many situations. Even first scary trail rides.

Also each one of my horses have a cue to drop their heads and relax. This works very well on lookie-loos. If they have a cue to drop their head and relax. Most of mine this a simple squeeze of my leg and they drop their head down when they are looking around for something to spook at I give them something easy and new to do and take their eye off the surroundings. Again works very well for all of mine and makes for a good parlor trick with friends.
This is very interesting and thanks for the explanation. I am going to give it some thought and see how I can use something like this for my own benefit

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post #94 of 98 Old 02-14-2011, 08:50 PM
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i assumed when safe spot was mentioned it was meant as an actual safe "spot"

but i wholeheartedly endorse this.

what i do is the same when teaching stopping, from a walk/trot/lope/gallop if theres any heaviness (not so much resistance as the horse has already been taught sensitivity too rein aids and this is rarely done on a first ride, just the horse not responding to the suggestive aids like a very light seat movement or vocal whoa), then with the reins as light as possible we stop and backup a few steps then rest for a short while. if there's a sudden and significant improvement then i'll even dismount while we rest, just to help the "that's good, leaving you alone now" psychology; which is an effective one.
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post #95 of 98 Old 02-17-2011, 09:27 AM
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Bosal (boz-al). This part around the horse's nose is most commonly made of braided rawhide, but it can be made of leather, horsehair or rope. Diameter of the bosal can vary from pencil size to broom handle size, and the bosal may vary in length and rigidity.
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rope... vary in length and rigidity
thus, a rope halter is a bosal bridle.

written by "
B.F. Yeates, Texas A&M U. and Melvin Bradley, Department of Animal Sciences, U. of Missouri-Columbia"
Pre-Bit Hackamore Training @ Horse Tack Review
it also explains why i choose to start horses in the hackamore in the 1st paragraph. two reining is easy enough

just some clarification
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Can you neck rein with a hackamore? Or do you have to keep split reins?
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post #98 of 98 Old 02-17-2011, 11:23 AM
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everything you can do in a snaffle you can do in a hackamore. so yes you can both neck rein and direct rein in the hackamore.
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