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    08-22-2012, 01:26 PM
In my understanding of a bosal (which isn't much) You can direct rein, but the cues just aren't as clear as something like an indian hackamore or other similar direct reining device. My understanding is that Bosals were designed precisely to teach a horse to neck rein before they are bitted. I could be mistaken, but that's what I've learned.
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    08-22-2012, 02:05 PM
This explaines it a little better How to Use a Bosal With Cotton Reins |

not exactly but better than I could
    08-22-2012, 02:10 PM
Yes I think I understand it now - you direct rein left, to turn them right. So essentially if you neck rein, the contact is made on the side of the nose/jaw that the horse needs to turn away from.

This works well for teaching neck reining, but if I want to turn left, I want to pull the left rein. Not mess with a whole pile of rope and neck touching and all. When my goal is to teach a horse to neck rein I'll consider using one of these though :) Thank you that link was very descriptive.
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    08-31-2012, 02:18 PM
I met Scott Pardum at a Horse Expo and bought one of his bitless riding halters! Love it! It has rings that you can attached your reins to. My Isabella really responds well to it....much better than a bit. He sells them on his website and I think the price is very reasonable. I am about to buy another one!

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    09-02-2012, 09:44 AM
My mare came with her Dr. Cooks bridle she goes wonderfully in it. Sometimes I use a eggbutt snaffle on her as well which she doesn't seem to mind ethier. Although she's taken everything I have thrown at her I stride sweet little thing ... Lol
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    09-22-2012, 07:10 AM
I have trained horses in a traditional hackamore for about 18 years now and I would highly recommend them to anyone wanting to ride without a bit. Having said that though I will more than happily admit my complete ignorance about any other bitless bridles; I have never use anything other than a hackamore. I originally began using a hackamore because I was a bit na´ve and figured bits were cruel, but as I learned more, particularly about bridle training horses, I came to learn that, on the whole, most things used on a horse are only as cruel as the person using it.
The reason I like using hackamores is because if you use them in the californio style they are an entire system for training a horse which will allow you to start off with a baby that has never been touched all the way to a good going cow horse; and eventually into a full bridle, if you wanted. I have found that using a hackamore also makes you a lot more aware of what you are doing with the reins and, for me at least, a lot better on a horse in general.
There are a lot of misconceptions about them, like the idea that they are cruel, or that you can't direct rein the horse with them, these are both incorrect, as are ideas about thicker, stiffer, bosals being harsh, they are only harsh if the person using them has harsh hands and if you want to hackamore train your horse the aim is to be as soft as is humanly possible.
As for describing the mechanics of them there isn't enough room here; and besides, though the methods and the principals behind their use is consistent, the actual way you handle them, not to mention the type of bosal and mecate you use in them, will change in line with the level of refinement the horse is at in its training. But if you were interested in a life times worth of very rewarding horse riding I would totally recommend a hackamore. Reading Hackamore Reinsman by Ed Connell is a good place to start.
    09-25-2012, 11:33 AM
Curious about how you guys are doing with the Indian Hackamore. I just ordered one from a local maker for my high-strung TWH mare that hates all bits. Is it going well so far? I looked into different types of hackamores and bosals and liked the idea of this the best.. my biggest concern is stopping her in it. She's got a lot of "go"...
    09-25-2012, 01:15 PM
My mare is wonderful in it! I'm getting one for my pony for driving soon I was teaching a riding lesson and needed to school a horse before the lesson, but her bridle was being used by another horse - I had brought my indian hackamore to show my coworkers. I tried the indian hackamore in the new horse, a percher standardbred cross - old amish cart horse whi until recently didn't know how to ride. I tried first on the ground, she gave in both directions quietly and backed up with it- so I hopped on. She was perfect! Better than bitted as she has a lump on her toungue from a tongue twitch in her past life.

My only warning, I used it on my mare for line-driving and I tripped over a pole, yanked on it pretty hard and she spent the rest of the day head tossing. Horse's noses are very delicate, so be careful not to accidently use to much or you can bruise them like I did >.<
I put a nose fuzzy on mine so it's even softer now but she still gives very well. Make sure to get the type where the strap you attach the reins to runs through a metal loop not the rope loop, the metal loop gives a more immediate release of pressure, the rope gets sticky.
Et me know what you think when you get it!
    09-25-2012, 01:23 PM
Thank you for the feedback! Can't wait to get it and try it out!!!
    09-28-2012, 10:40 PM
Green Broke
I also use a Dr. Cook's, and my horse and I both like it a lot.
He goes really well in it. :)

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