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    09-29-2012, 02:58 AM
  #21
Foal
Hey I'm not sure if you are still interested in other bridles, but there is also the micklem multibridle. It has 5 settings and can be used as a lunge cavesson, a regular bridle, and 3 different bittless bridles, from mild to strong(a sidepull, a cross under... and I forget the 3rd one...) It also has an interesting design where it is formed around the horse's skull from the inside out where it works to avoid sensitive nerves that apparently make a horse rub his head after workouts. Here's a link: Welcome to William Micklem's Rambo Multibridle

(sorry my first time posting a link on this forum, I'm not sure if that worked)

Another natural thing you could do if you're completely natural and therefore kind of crazy; you could try a cordeo, or neckrope. That is bridless riding as your cues come not just from the cordeo, but your entire body as well using weight shifts, subtle cues, and verbal cues. And a lot of people think you can't do anything without a bit, but that isn't true. If you search bridless riding on youtube(or I can post links), there's this amazing user named Bonvaus(something like that), and his horse Bon Voyage can do tempi-changes bridless! And he's just one example Okay sorry, I totally just wrote a novel, I hope I helped somehow? And I also hope that everything goes well with your girl!
     
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    09-29-2012, 10:39 AM
  #22
Started
Oh that looks really neat! I'll have to look into that! I really like riding bitless for this particular horse, I'm not crazy natural, I just want to use the least amount of pressure needed. But at the same time, I want her used to everything. I thought of the cordeo neck strap and I think later once she's fully trained I'll look into advancing to that, but until then. She's a very spooky horse and I'd like to be able to help her calm herself, which without a bridle that would be difficult. And I do realize that many bitless options are more severe than some mild bits, but I'm looking for more mild bitless options, so far the Indian Hackamore has been working very well
     
    09-30-2012, 02:44 PM
  #23
Foal
Here's a link that describes several different styles of bitless bridles and how they work. From what I have seen, different styles suit different horses, sometimes you have to try a couple of different ones to find one they really like. I am using LightRider bridles which have a chinstrap and my horses seem to quite like those.

Natural Horse World Bitless Bridles

Speaking of riding with a cordeo, I inspired by this rider and the connection she has with herhorse, I thik they are amazing.

     
    10-01-2012, 03:47 PM
  #24
Weanling
Hi there, Glad to hear you found a solution for you & your mare. I had many of the same concerns as you when going bitless and was not satisfied with what was on the market. Too much pressure, too slow to release, unclear communication and (for me) too expensive. My solution was to make my own

I have a blog & website with more detailed info if you are still interested.

Home - Rydem Bitless

Rydem Bitless
     
    10-14-2012, 12:05 AM
  #25
Foal
I use a rope hackamore which has strategically placed knots to assist in better "brakes" with nose pressure. I also like that I could customize colors with this tack. :)

Custom Rope Hackamore Bitless Bridle Extra Knots by KnotJustRope
     
    10-18-2012, 09:12 PM
  #26
Foal
Dr cook is nice.But the first year a had my gelding I just use a halter! Works the same and cheper.If you have never rode her bitless dif had someone with you in case she/he desides they don't want to stop! I know a halter dose not hurt them because my horse would have let me know loud and clear if it did. Good luck!
     
    10-18-2012, 09:14 PM
  #27
Green Broke
I ride my mare in a sidepull but its only an attachment. I use a normal headstall and the side pull noseband part just attachs to the headstall. It's made out of yacht rope. Really nifty
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    10-19-2012, 12:14 PM
  #28
Yearling
I use the...

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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
I'm so sorry if this topic has been done to death - I did try searching up past forums but only found debates and arguments.

I've decided I definitely want to go bitless for training my mare, but I have a few questions. My personal thought is that it would make more sense to start bitless and move on to bitted, if I ever decide to go further than 'just for fun' with her, which probably won't happen. :P If it matters, she's a small draft horse, but really I don't think it should.
My other question is which types of bitless bridles do you suggest and why? I have studied the crap out of bits and how they work and why - but am just now getting into learning about bitless bridles, so if you can explain the mechanics of it that would be fantastic.
I was looking at the Dr. Cook's and really like that one, rode a few of our lesson horses in one and they were amazing! But some parts of it looked pinchy - and the whole point is to avoid pain. What are some other types of bitless bridles, I will probably ride direct reining, I may eventually teach her neck reining for the heck of it, but my natural inclination is to direct rein.

Thank you all for being willing to go through this topic again. :P But I couldn't find very many solid suggestions or any good reasons for why those were suggested. Just a whole lot of debates about whether or not to go bitless.
Nurtural Horse: The Better Bitless Bridle
I've had my mare for over 7yrs. Now, she is now 10. She was trained in a bit but I rode her for three years just with her rope halter and found she was just as responsive without the bit. Then a friend let me try out her nutural bridle and I really liked it......i still ride just with the halter at times.....
     
    10-19-2012, 12:18 PM
  #29
Green Broke
I honestly don't see the difference between nurtural and dr cook?

Maybe I am ignorant...?
     
    10-19-2012, 12:50 PM
  #30
Super Moderator
I do wish all threads could stick to people sharing their opinions and experience without feeling the need to attack other posters who have a different opinion - this one is so nice and civilised!!!!

We've been using a Doctor Cook with great results on a very forward going mare who has a slightly odd short mouth that seems to allow her to easily get the tongue over the bit which she began to do and became a habit that involves a lot of head tossing. A flash strap stops her but that irritates her
I think that the clue to anything like this working is that they are responsive to nose pressure to start with on the ground so the lightest pull they are going to stop - if you need to haul on the Dr Cook it will tighten up and pinch and then not get a good result.
We've also used an english hackamore on her - its got more 'stop' in it so I think I prefer it for trails, the shanks are way shorter than US ones and has a sheepskin noseband that we added more too. They.were designed for the UK market so work as a side pull
I tried the Dr Cook on my pinto last night and I'd say she was happier in that than in the plain snaffle but she's had something happen to her in the past to make her very uneasy with contact with a bit. Again - she stops at the lightest pressure so no 'squeezing'
I think something on the lines of a leather headcollar with sidepull attachments would work fine with my two if it fitted snugly - which is the advantage of the Dr Cook
The test comes when something spooks them on the trail or the roads and pushes them out of their comfort zone. Even the best trained horses aren't robots and perfect 100% of the time
     

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