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    02-13-2014, 07:31 PM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
I have never ridden or trained with a bosel but I've been thinking about getting one to use on my QH, "Buster Brown." He yields very well with a halter. Any suggestions, or threads here with suggestions?
I found this thread helpful, read it this morning, after spending all of last night reading it's 68 page mother thread. The Hackamore Horse Put it in my original posting on this thread. It has a lot of good tips, and gives guidelines for where your horse should be in a snaffle before progressing to the bosal.
     
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    02-13-2014, 07:36 PM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by EquineObsessed    
I don't think the OP meant that bosals are cruel. I got the impression it was something she heard, but wanted to learn more about. Much better attitude than some of those other threads, and posters who insist on making ill-formed generalizations!
Oh, I'm very sorry, my mistake! I meant the girl in the video and the girl in the "bits are cruel" thread. Sorry about that.
     
    02-13-2014, 08:14 PM
  #23
Weanling
What bothers me the most is that this is exactly why people dislike that age group. I'm a few years older than this girl, but people like her give the more mature and knowledgeable teenage riders a bad rep. And I don't even blame them. Stuff like this makes me dislike my own generation. Besides the obvious misinformation, is it really professional to be all annoying with the "OMG" every sentence? It's not like it helps her look smarter. Gah!
     
    02-13-2014, 08:30 PM
  #24
Trained
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Originally Posted by Lonannuniel    
I wish I had enough experience to give you a useful response, but as others have said, anything in the wrong hands can be cruel

As a side note, have I really been pronouncing bosal the wrong way for years? Is it bo-zel (like in the youtube video), or baw-sul?
The pronunciation is regional.
Here we pronounce bosal like the girl in the video, as much as I hate to say it...LOL (bo-zel)
We also pronounce mecate as- "muh-car-dee".
Or just call it a 'hair rope".
     
    02-13-2014, 08:46 PM
  #25
Foal
Lol...a few times I swore she said "bozos".
Good to see I wasn't the only one wondering about the pronunciation! :)
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    02-13-2014, 09:31 PM
  #26
Showing
I've used them all, snaffles, curbs, spade, bosal, western and English hack. All of these are cruel in the wrong hands but each is designed to be a means of communication, soft communication.
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    02-13-2014, 09:57 PM
  #27
Weanling
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Originally Posted by EquineObsessed    
Bosals are no more cruel than the hands that use them, just like everything else in the horse world.
This says it all.

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Originally Posted by Corporal    
OH, to be 16yo and know EVERYTHING!!!!!!
Oh that's funny I was SO much smarter when I was 16, now I'm 38 what's happened to me.

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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
I've used them all, snaffles, curbs, spade, bosal, western and English hack. All of these are cruel in the wrong hands but each is designed to be a means of communication, soft communication.
Again its the hand not the tool, thank you thank you thank you.
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    02-13-2014, 10:09 PM
  #28
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
The pronunciation is regional.
Here we pronounce bosal like the girl in the video, as much as I hate to say it...LOL (bo-zel)
We also pronounce mecate as- "muh-car-dee".
Or just call it a 'hair rope".
My old trainer called it a "bawzal" so that's how I always pronounce it but my new trainer calls it a bo-zel
     
    02-14-2014, 12:06 AM
  #29
Started
Oh lord... THIS is why I can't handle most people unless they are at least 3 years older than me XD. I look at my generation (I'm only 21) and I want to slam my head against a wall. This generation is just painful...
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    02-14-2014, 01:29 AM
  #30
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
I have never ridden or trained with a bosel but I've been thinking about getting one to use on my QH, "Buster Brown." He yields very well with a halter. Any suggestions, or threads here with suggestions?
CowChick would be the best person to talk to. I have done a bit of training with a bosal (around here, pronounced either "bows-all" or "bo-sul") but I'm a long way from an expert at it as I've always preferred a snaffle then straight up to the curb. One thing I can tell you is that any good bosal will have a natural core in it, stay away from anything with a cable core, those are crap.

Also, a good bosal and hair mecate (meh-cah-tee around here ) will run you several hundred dollars. If you wanted, you can get a decent yacht rope mecate for 30-50, but they are much heavier than hair. I'm not really sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. I know I refuse to use a yacht mecate on a snaffle simply because it makes the bit imbalanced by having the near side weigh almost twice as much as the off side.

Anyway, all I have to say about the girl who posted all those vids is this: With the way she rides, bosals (or in her case, a very poorly fitted rope nose hack), saddles, and riding are all cruel. My horses would kill me if I rode like that.
     

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