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    03-13-2014, 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by loosie    
Nice demo Daniel. But something OT distracted me, especially when the horse was laying down with his hind foot so close... what is the purpose of that back cinch, when it is so loose??

I've only seen a horse once with a hind foot caught in a too loose cinch, which happened when the guy lay the horse down, but it wasn't pretty & I couldn't help thinking it was likely in this case when the horse was laying down saddled.
I'd say that girth was just right. You are correct about what can happen, but it's a fairly freak deal, especially with a horse that knows what it's doing. I haven't had that happen, but I did once have a colt get a hind foot through a stirrup. Don't ask me how he did it, but he sure tore that saddle up.

Truly, I could have done everything with no back girth at all, so it really served no purpose. I do, however always ride with one because I mostly start colts and ride problem horses. A horse which isn't used to a back girth getting accidentally introduced to one can be a helluva wreck as well, so mine get used to one.

If you'll look right when he's laying down, the back of the saddle rises up quite a bit, making the fairly lose back girth pretty well snug on his belly. People who do ride with a tight back girth frequently don't realize just how much of your horse's ability and mobility you compromise. It is like strapping a rigid backpack to your back. You can't bend anymore. I knew that there would be a few fairly hard stops in this ride, which would cause the back of the saddle to rise up, and the laying down, again, causing saddle to rise up, so I gave him some slack. NBD to me. Adjust yours as you see fit.
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    03-13-2014, 11:04 PM
All that being said, if I was about to go and rope something, that back girth would be tight.
    03-14-2014, 02:02 AM
Originally Posted by DanielDauphin    
All that being said, if I was about to go and rope something, that back girth would be tight.
Yeah, I always thought the point of a back cinch was to prevent the back of the saddle lifting, particularly in situations such as roping cattle. I thought it was meant to be 'snug' but not tight, to be able to do that job but without restricting the horse otherwise? I'm in Aus so not speaking much from experience really, as few people, except on the rodeo scene(stockmen usually ride in single girthed stock saddles here & rarely rope the same as you guys) use them as far as I've seen.
    03-19-2014, 03:53 PM
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I've got lots of space for growth in bridleless riding, but we've still gone far, my boy and myself. :)

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    03-30-2014, 11:48 PM
More bridleless riding
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    03-31-2014, 12:10 AM
Hey, you guys might want to check out 'Evolving Horsemanship' on Facebook - I reckon her use of side reins are a great idea!
    04-02-2014, 07:01 PM
Here is my late buddy in his Savvy hackamore. I am now training his replacement in one.

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    04-03-2014, 02:59 AM
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That's great, Danny, and that's one good looking horse! However, you're more bitless than bridleless - which means riding without a headstall at all. ;)
    04-04-2014, 09:43 PM
Riding bridleless is the best!

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    04-04-2014, 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by DanielDauphin    
A horse which isn't used to a back girth getting accidentally introduced to one can be a helluva wreck as well, so mine get used to one.
I guess my horse must be a rare exception. She was never ridden with a back cinch, so I was a bit nervous when I first introduced her to my western saddle that has one, but she completely ignored it (which is rare for her because she's an explosively spooky Arabian and tends to be a bit jumpy with new things like ropes around her legs). 3 years later, always ridden with that saddle with the back cinch, and she's like a real western horse (and a lot less spooky).

I keep my back cinch quite loose...enough to fit my hand sideways between it and the horse's belly. Basically, I take it and tighten it until it's against her, then loosen it to the next hole down. Never had any problems. It's not supposed to be snug, I agree. The point is to keep the saddle from rising up too much in the back (mine tends to do that, even though it's as perfect a fit as possible for my mare), and it doesn't need to be tight to do that.

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