The Carrot Stick - Page 2 - The Horse Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 42 Old 07-16-2009, 06:46 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 775
• Horses: 3
Picture of an "Unnatural" horse.

Marecare is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 42 Old 07-16-2009, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 883
• Horses: 2
Why are you even in this thread? You are contributing nothing, and you're being rude and condescending.

Not all who wander are lost - J.R.R. Tolkien
Colorado Equine Massage Therapy
goldilockz is offline  
post #13 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 07:38 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 307
• Horses: 6
I was just making conversation. I wasn't being negative, I honestly thought it was funny. The marketing behind it is just down right amazing to me!

Oh, btw marecare, I have no problem whatsoever with "natural horsemanship". Actually, most of my business comes from NH people. I only have a problem with people that think "I have to buy this to achieve that" and people that worship equestrian figures that have a way with words.

Good horsemanship is achieved through communication and understanding the horse. Consistency, accuracy, knowledge, compasion, yet solid guidance, is what makes a good horse. When I see the horse and how they interact with their person, I know that the time has been taken and emotions understood. An orange stick tells me none of this, it just looks like an orange stick. I would honestly much rather hear that he called it carrot because he liked the color orange rather than all of that other brain washing mumbo jumbo.

I wish I could post a picture of one horse communicating with another using an orange stick, You know, to display the "natural".

Sorry to be sidetracked on your thread Goldilockz, I will be done now.
FlitterBug is offline  
post #14 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 08:19 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 883
• Horses: 2
No need to apologize, FlitterBug :)

Not all who wander are lost - J.R.R. Tolkien
Colorado Equine Massage Therapy
goldilockz is offline  
post #15 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 08:59 AM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 775
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlitterBug View Post
I was just making conversation. I wasn't being negative, I honestly thought it was funny. The marketing behind it is just down right amazing to me!

Oh, btw marecare, I have no problem whatsoever with "natural horsemanship". Actually, most of my business comes from NH people. I only have a problem with people that think "I have to buy this to achieve that" and people that worship equestrian figures that have a way with words.

Good horsemanship is achieved through communication and understanding the horse. Consistency, accuracy, knowledge, compasion, yet solid guidance, is what makes a good horse. When I see the horse and how they interact with their person, I know that the time has been taken and emotions understood. An orange stick tells me none of this, it just looks like an orange stick. I would honestly much rather hear that he called it carrot because he liked the color orange rather than all of that other brain washing mumbo jumbo.

I wish I could post a picture of one horse communicating with another using an orange stick, You know, to display the "natural".

Sorry to be sidetracked on your thread Goldilockz, I will be done now.

This sounds like envy and being negative to me.
Marecare is offline  
post #16 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 09:01 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 883
• Horses: 2
Again, Marecare, I will ask. Why are you in this thread?? You have contributed nothing except being rude and condescending.

Not all who wander are lost - J.R.R. Tolkien
Colorado Equine Massage Therapy
goldilockz is offline  
post #17 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 775
• Horses: 3
Thank you for you opinion.

Just because someone makes a buck or two on "horse stuff"does not set me off on a rant about overpriced gear.

If you don't like the gear then don't buy it.
PP also sells a saddle for over $4000 dollars that is suppose to help the conformation of the horse.
The world is filled with all kinds of claims and boasts,so what?

Do you want to talk about training techniques or complain about the cost of gear?
Marecare is offline  
post #18 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 10:18 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 883
• Horses: 2
What I wanted to talk about in this thread was whether or not the carrot stick was something different from what it looked like.

I didn't want someone coming in and picking apart everyone else's opinions, trying to start a fight with people who may disagree with Natural Horsemanship.

Not all who wander are lost - J.R.R. Tolkien
Colorado Equine Massage Therapy
goldilockz is offline  
post #19 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 11:13 AM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 775
• Horses: 3
I believe the "carrot stick" is a buggy whip (a little shorter) and it is orange.
Marecare is offline  
post #20 of 42 Old 07-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Doc
Foal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Arizona, USA
Posts: 10
• Horses: 2
Flitterbug, I agree with all that you have said, and saw nothing in any of your posts that was offensive. You expressed your 'observation', just as the original poster asked for an observation from others (and also expressed an opinion- "It looks like a crop to me... "), by asking the initial question.

That being said, and having experience with both the carrot stick and a light lunge-whip, as well as a sorting stick, I would tell a beginner that a carrot-stick is nothing more than a sorting stick for cattle that is orange...and if they don't know what a sorting stick is, then I would tell them that the carrot stick would resemble an orange 10-foot lunge-whip with the last six feet chopped off, leaving the handle part to use.

Both the carrot stick and the lunge-whip serve the same purpose, used correctly...it becomes an extension of the person using it to assist in training.

As to how it (the carrot stick) got its name...I did not have the answer for that, although it was answered in previous posts, so I apologize for not answering the original question.

"I don't own my horses, they own me. It is a relationship I have no plans of changing."

Last edited by Doc; 07-17-2009 at 03:55 PM.
Doc is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
want stick on weight!!!!!!!! help!!!!!! phonix Horse Health 8 04-26-2009 05:18 AM
Savvy String wraping around Carrot Stick StormyBlues Natural Horsemanship 25 03-03-2009 10:09 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome