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        01-11-2012, 08:50 PM
    The NH area is a sub forum on the horse training threads. It's small print and underlined I think (?)
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        01-11-2012, 08:52 PM
    Originally Posted by Newby32    
    I think that the hard part is that we think the horse will love us if we pet, groom, feed treats, spend time with, etc. However, the horse will usually love his strong leader. All the other stuff is fun for us and I'm sure the horse enjoys it too, but the horse needs someone to be the boss. I'm quickly learning this. Every ride, I'm getting tougher and more dominant. He did some little temper tantrum hopping as we headed out on the trail today, but instead of getting uptight about it, I was like "oh no buddy, we are going!" I got him out the gate and we had our ride. I would like to hug my horse all day (he's very teddy bear like), but after a bit, he's like "ok lady, get out of my coral and let me eat!" :) Good luck with your horse!

    Im working on getting more assertive in my riding also. Being more direct and smacking a little harder with my encouragement crop. Riding is going better. Thanks for making me feel "not alone" I know we will get better with time...just I have no patience!
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        01-11-2012, 08:53 PM
    Originally Posted by LuckyRVT    
    Im newer here and have no idea how to do that. IDK what NH area im going to go find out.
    NH is the Natural Horsemanship sub forum to the training one. That is where this thread now is. It is a "category" of sorts.
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        01-11-2012, 11:38 PM
    NH is Natural Horsemanship. It's a group of trainers that use a certain style.

    Originally Posted by LuckyRVT    
    Im working on getting more assertive in my riding also. Being more direct and smacking a little harder with my encouragement crop. Riding is going better. Thanks for making me feel "not alone" I know we will get better with time...just I have no patience!
    I just wanted to say... Patience is so important :) I actually get comments on it all the time when I'm with my horse. The more patient you can be, especially helping through an issue.. the better it'll be for your horse. They won't be scared of messing up. But if the horse is being naughty.. no patience is rewarded for that!
        01-11-2012, 11:56 PM
    By "doing Parelli" what resources are using to learn about it?

    A couple of things you mentioned are addressed in Parelli very early on. Don't hide the halter. If your horse doesn't want to be haltered, and you want to use PNH methods to work with her, then you have other things to do first (namely sending her away from you which is counterintuitive I know, but it's about dominance and who can make who move).

    The second thing they teach early on is that horses are used to being caught for work. One exercise is to simply spend time in your horse's environment (pasture, paddock, whatever) without asking them to "do" anything. No haltering, no brushing, no attention, nada. You let your horse initiate contact with you. You'll do this every so often, especially in the beginning because it breaks the cycle of "here she comes, I'm going to have to work again".

    When you board your horse and have limited time like you do, you lose some opportunities to do this just in the natural course of horse care. I muck my horses' paddocks while they're in eating, I piddle around in the pastures fixing stuff or picking up branches, whatever.

    It's going to take time to do this and it's going to take time to make her want to do this, but if this is the method of training you choose, please get the first series of DVD's (I think they have changed it up now, but it was the set of Level I DVD's when I got them) and watch them in their entirety first. Then, it's helpful to find a Parelli group in your area. Having a mentor, people who are further advanced, will be able to help guide you in their group play days.

    The whole natural horsemanship thing isn't about loving a horse more than others, and it's not about loving them enough to will them to respect you, it's about communicating with your horse in a language they can understand, being respectful, but also getting respect from them.
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        01-12-2012, 06:35 AM
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        01-12-2012, 06:38 AM
    I have the first DVD and have watched videos online, and my mentor is a friend who has went to several of their "classes". I will also be attending their conference in Ohio in June. :) patience is key I know, I'm just so excited for her to succeed! I have some new tools now and can't wait to try them out!
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        01-12-2012, 07:09 AM
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    I don't have much indepth knowledge about parelli, but you have been given some SUPERB info here.

    You have to think 'horse'. Does a horse understand and process love and affection the way we do? No, they enjoy mutual grooming and a buck and a play. But I'm not a horse. If mine does well, a good scratch on the neck, which in my eyes is almost like grooming her, is what she really enjoys.

    If she has a bad day (c'mon guys.. mares are.. MARES) then we spend a little more time on the ground. I want to enjoy having my horse, not make it a chore.

    If she pins her ears, you have to imagine, as dreamcatcher mentioned in another thread, that you are pinning your ears too- battle of the wills. Except you have to win.

    In all honesty, find a trainer in your area to work with you and your mare for a few sessions, outside eyes help a LOT. I was lucky to have my trainer on site with me when I bought my youngster. We learnt together, but every time she's tried to be the bigger horse, I've become the bigger person, so to speak.

    It doesn't come over night, its something that takes a lot of practise and a lot of handling.

    Good luck.
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        01-12-2012, 07:54 AM
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    Please, get a trainer for you and your horse. I'm pro-NH (not only PP), but beginners very often tend to misinterpret the whole system and spoil their horses down to plain dangerous. It will be best for you both if you find a professional that helps you with your skills. :)
        01-17-2012, 09:15 AM
    Do you do any ground work excerises ? [like the 7 games]

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