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    10-12-2010, 09:27 PM
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Yearling
Chris Irwin on Stateline Tack

Has anyone else watched Chris Irwin on the stateline tack and horse video library?

At first, I was confused at his methods and was like, you know what dude? You don't know what you're talking about. But, I have re-watched his videos over and over and I can make sense of them, and I have tried them with my horse, and they work. It just takes a lot of time and patience. I like to try all methods, or learn them, so I can truly say, if I need too, 'I have tried that and it doesn't work for me'.

He is very right about the concept of 'round penning' and how some people take it totally wrong. And I love how he points out that the round pen is not the only place the horse reads our body langueage, but every time he sees us.

I also watched all the videos about the "swirls" on the horses foreheads, and I kid you not, I examined all of my horses, and they have the personalities he describes. Lol I'm adictted to studying a horse's forehead now. I do it to all of my freinds horses Lol
     
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    10-12-2010, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ChevyPrincess    
He is very right about the concept of 'round penning' and how some people take it totally wrong. And I love how he points out that the round pen is not the only place the horse reads our body langueage, but every time he sees us.
I've watched a couple, but not the roundpenning one (their video player makes my net connection grouchy, lol). I LOVE that he makes that point, and now have to go watch that vid. So many people that I know think that the horse only "learns" when he's being "trained", and they run into trouble when they put the horse away, and come back later without their game face, expecting that everything has gelled for the horse and he is fixed forever perfectly.

They don't stop thinking like horses, ever. Part of thinking like a horse is testing the leader's credentials every now and again, to make sure that you're safe from the Boogey Man. Part of being the herd leader is being ready to respond to that test and pass, at any time.
     
    10-12-2010, 11:04 PM
  #3
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I have never seen any videos by this man. He is American? Aussie? Can you explain a bit more of what he says about round penning? I learned round pen work SOOOOO different from Monty Roberts "join up" or other familiar brand names. So, I would love to hear a synopsis. My internet connection is better now, so I will also try to find a video, but just wanted to hear your take on it.

Scoutrider, what kind of new dressage saddle did you get?
     
    10-12-2010, 11:30 PM
  #4
Yearling
Tinyliny, honestly, I don't know what he is. His accent throws me off. I think he's from somewhere up North, or maybe Europe.

In round penning, he uses a whip, not a rope. And he never beats the horse with it. It is similiar to join-up, I think he just takes it further steps into the mind of the horse. I wouldn't do justice explaining it, Lol. It's better to watch. The videos are free. Just go to www.statelinetack.com and find the 'Video Gallery'. It's best to watch the 'Basic Equine Videos' section first so you know what he is building on in the other videos.

The ones where he does stall manners is amazing, you won't belive how quick he can turn a horse from hating and being mean to people, not wanting to be caught, into a loving, affectionate animal.
     
    10-13-2010, 11:27 AM
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Scoutrider, what kind of new dressage saddle did you get?
It took me a second to remember that I'd posted that, ha ha

I actually went with a Wintec 500, the older style. It's very gently used, actually, but not a mark on it. I'd been lurking around Craigslist waiting for a used, affordable, leather saddle with a prayer of fitting me and my horse, but one never came up - at least until after I bought the Wintec, ha ha. I'm really happy with it; it fits me a far sight better, and more importantly, fits Scout much better than the no-name AP I was riding in.

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack... I'll let the thread go back to topic now.
     
    10-13-2010, 12:56 PM
  #6
Yearling
Haha, no problem :) I didn't expect many people would know who the guy was anyway lol. I need to get a better saddle fit for my mom's gelding. The withers is never the problem, since he doesn't really have any. But his shoulders are so wide, if I put the saddle on by itself, just to check, I can't even fit a finger through the side where his shoulder movemant would be. Would a thick pad help raise it? Or only make it worse and tighter?

He is okay in my light wintec saddle, even if there is some restriction it's not a heavy saddle like my mom's leather one.
     
    10-13-2010, 01:24 PM
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Haha, no problem :) I didn't expect many people would know who the guy was anyway lol. I need to get a better saddle fit for my mom's gelding. The withers is never the problem, since he doesn't really have any. But his shoulders are so wide, if I put the saddle on by itself, just to check, I can't even fit a finger through the side where his shoulder movemant would be. Would a thick pad help raise it? Or only make it worse and tighter?

He is okay in my light wintec saddle, even if there is some restriction it's not a heavy saddle like my mom's leather one.
I'm afraid a thicker pad would only make the fit worse. Like putting thick socks on with too-small shoes. Actually, a correctly fitted English saddle shouldn't need a pad - maybe just a thin one to protect the leather/material from sweat and salt. Maybe look into a wider tree? Assuming that your Wintec is an English style, wider gullet plates aren't extremely expensive, and might buy you some space. There's no adjustment to their Western models. Even a lightweight saddle can make some wicked pressure points once the rider's weight is added.

I got myself half-scared over fitting Scout. We literally don't have English saddle fitters in my area, and I probably couldn't afford a custom saddle if we did. I spent a good six months researching and finding DIY ways to fit saddles correctly, and I still get jumpy, even though the Wintec is, to my self-trained eye, about the best fit for him that I can afford. He seems happy, anyway.
     
    10-13-2010, 01:37 PM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ChevyPrincess    

I also watched all the videos about the "swirls" on the horses foreheads, and I kid you not, I examined all of my horses, and they have the personalities he describes. Lol I'm adictted to studying a horse's forehead now. I do it to all of my freinds horses Lol

I haven't heard of this guy before, but if you found that cool, you should check out a book called Getting in TTouch that goes into detail about how swirls and conformation can tell you about your horse's personality. I haven't fully tested it out, but I found it fascinating.

http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Touch-Understand-Influence-Personality/dp/1570760187/ref=pd_cp_b_2
     
    10-13-2010, 05:34 PM
  #9
Yearling
Thanks for the link ptvintage =) I will definitely have to check it out!
     
    10-16-2010, 09:36 PM
  #10
Started
I just got the chance to sit down and watch some more of the videos, and I'm very impressed at this point. There are a lot more riding/training vids than there were last time I was on.

Mr. Irwin is really parallelling what I've been trying on my own to accomplish with Scout - natural horsemanship ideas applied to (at least my self-taught understanding of) dressage principles. Essentially "old school" NH; solid. I watched a couple of the long lining lessons, and a couple of the calm collection lessons - pretty good stuff! Now I have another good reason to procrastinate on homework!
     

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