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    10-17-2010, 04:42 PM
Yes, and if you watch the Lead-In-Hand ones where he works with a chesnut, it's really good to watch becuase the horse isn't well mannered at all, and rears and bolts, and on camera, he explains why, and shows how he gets it under control.

He is very down to earth, and he goes slow on his speaking so we can all get the idea. I am very impressed with them too, and that is a lot of information to get for free!
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    11-09-2010, 12:04 PM
Hi, im pretty new to this thing, only my second post.

I have pretty much watched all Mr Irwins Videos and have started to use most of his techniques. He is from Canada originaly and he has also published a couple of books, wich I enjoyed.

I even went as far as to find the only assosiate in africa who happened to stay here in South Africa to find out more. What I can tell you is that the more you use his ways the softer and more forgiveing your horses become.

I don't like dominating horses, Sure you get them to do what you want but its far more enjoyable when they work with you more like a partner. His concept of using blocking drawing and pushing really makes things easer to understnad.

Iv done alot of "Natural Horsmanship" stuff but as he says you don't want a natural horse but a supper natural one.

    01-08-2011, 12:14 AM
Green Broke
Ok, the swirl theory is super interesting!

Thanks for sharing!
    01-08-2011, 01:31 AM
Originally Posted by tinyliny    
I have never seen any videos by this man. He is American? Aussie? Can you explain a bit more of what he says about round penning? I learned round pen work SOOOOO different from Monty Roberts "join up" or other familiar brand names. So, I would love to hear a synopsis. My internet connection is better now, so I will also try to find a video, but just wanted to hear your take on it.

Scoutrider, what kind of new dressage saddle did you get?

I looked it up because ChevyPrincess said his accent threw her off, but I thought he sounds completely normal.. His website says he's from a little outside Toronto. Haha. I guess it's true: North Dakotans talk like Canadians. Years of denial come crashing down.

I really like his theories on the swirls though. They describe Abby pretty well. She's averagely aware, but cannot focus very well.

I have looked at the Getting in TTouch book and it's really cool. It uses every characteristic of your horse's head (mostly, other parts are included too, I think) to point out its personality.
    01-10-2011, 12:56 PM
Green Broke
The more I watch these videos, the more I like this guy's concept. At first I thought he was kind of a weenie, but it makes sense!
    01-10-2011, 01:05 PM
I love love love Chris Irwin -- his methods are what I learned from my instructor, long before we knew who he was and he's excellent about teaching to learn about the horse and it's body language, not we force the horse to learn us.

His book "Horses Don't Lie" is awesome, and I've heard great things about "Dancing With Your Dark Horse" but haven't read it yet.
    01-10-2011, 01:20 PM
Green Broke
I found them both used on Amazon...I will let you know! :)
    02-21-2011, 09:16 AM
Green Broke
Both of the books were great, I highly recommend them!

The more I hear from Irwin the more I like him. I try to take away a little bit of everything from each trainer I look into.
    02-21-2011, 11:21 PM
I'm having a bit of pc trouble, but managed to catch the video on swirls, & didn't anyone notice how badly his horse wanted him to take his hands off of his head!? No lead rope, just hanging onto his head, & the poor horse was tossing his head forever! Plus, that heavy old web halter looked uncomfortable! At one point, CI leaned over to pick up something off of the ground, & I was hoping so much it'd be a blessed lead rope, but no, it was a whip that CI used to drive the horse back.
    03-19-2011, 03:09 PM
Just wanted to jump in here and explain who Chris Irwin is.
Chris Irwin is one of the top trainers and clinicians in the world. He hails from Ontario, Canada, but now lives at Riversong Ranch near Whitecourt in Alberta together with his wife Kathryn Kincannon-Irwin.
Chris Irwin is the author of two books, Horses Don't Lie and Dancing with The Dark Horse.
Chris Irwin's mantra is: "Ask not what your horse can do for you. Ask what you can do for your horse."
Chris Irwin believes in training the trainer (anytime we are with a horse we are essentially training) so we can be the better horse (become a benevolent leader). It is all about proper body language, awareness, timing, consistency, empathy, compassion, patience and integrity.
You can find out more about Chris Irwin at
He also has a forum at My Community - Index


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