Clinton Anderson

What do you consider beating... I have to tap my horse with a whip that's not beating it's "getting through to them" and I know the diffrence trust me I have been with those people acually they used to train me SO I DO USE MY HEAD AND THE ONLY I LEARNED FROM THEM IS HOW TO GET BUCKED OFF A HORSE AND HOW TO AVOID GETTING BIT OR KICKED. Now my horses acaully like me!!!!

oh yes I know the diffrence, and he was being way over a agressive completely not what "a natual horseman" would do....
But I guesss I have seen worse..
There is this person is name is Denis something and once he tied a horse up and whipped him so the horse kicked him so Denis tripped him with a rope by tieing his legs and then he started kicking the horse in the head....
So yeah he wasn't that bad, and I have only seen him do anything bad like that once, but still not a fan of Clinton

I wonder if that made Youtube video?

I agree with the post about CA pushing a horse too hard too fast. When I went to his clinic he never did complete the goals he had set for a high strung appendix mare...In fact, she got away from him and he spent most of the next hour trying to catch her....And then decided it would be best to have his apprentice work with her back at the barn.
We've had really good immediate results from some of his stuff, but I've found that with a couple of our horses I needed to go back and show them that it was okay to do some of the same exercises WALKING, paying attention to toning down the energy put in to the requests.
Whereas my warmblood colt I started doing a lot of the same things concentrating on moving one foot at a time, and now he can do all of it FAST. But there was never any need to push very hard at all.
All of that being said, if it works for you and your horse DO IT no matter what name brand it is.

I started off with Parelli many years ago but never really understood his training. Have been to various natural horse trainers since then but I was inclined to forget what I'd learned after awhile. Well anyway about eighteen months ago I went to a clinic with my unbroken Arab gelding. The clinician asked me what I wanted to do with my horse I replied that I wanted to break him in myself. Well!! I was told in no uncertain terms that I was not capable of breaking in my own horse! That really challenged me! So I bought Clinton Andersons Colt Starting DVD set (I live in New Zealand) and started my horse myself. It was absolutely brilliant, a step by step instruction that was easy to follow. His first outing under saddle was a noisy parade. I was only going to pony him but he was going so well I rode him and he went perfectly.

So, I am very grateful to find something that worked so well. It was the first horse I'd ever started and I am over sixty!

I really really like clinton anderson.

I wont go to far into parelli, I really like the 7 games and not much else, its just not a program that makes sense to me.

I've never worked with john lyons himself, but a horse I used to own was 'trained' for a few days under one of his students. The guy freaked the horse out so bad that it was rearing in a couple minutes...hes not a rearer and the calmest horse ever so im not sure what the guy did to him.

I agree on Parelli being confusing, but the exercises are so fun(:
And actually, this Friday a John Lyons certified trainer is having a free clinic at my barn(:
SO super excited!

I like both Parelli and Anderson - CA suffers a little from young mans disease (which PP used too) - he has softened /slowed his approach to humans since he met Linda. Both however stress to be as light as possible but as firm as necessary. I have seen PP on numerous occassions live and have seen him get extremely firm (if taken out of contex it would look cruel, but in both cases he was a last resoort to a potentially very danngerous horse) but the moment the horse responds he is as light as can be. CA gets firm (perhaps a little too quickly) but his timing is excellent.

I teach Natural Horsemanship and find that most of my students find learning driving before porcupine (as per CA) easier. I am not a PP or a CA Instructor but recommend both to my students.

How about Buck Brannaman?
I saw his documentary or whatever, and some of the things I saw were very strange. Especially with the one horse. Unbroke stallion I'm pretty sure. Scary stuff.
It really did encourage me to work with my horse though(/
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Buck brannaman is great ! What do you mean by strange, what was strange about him ?