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    07-21-2011, 11:02 AM
  #21
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
It is funny the things people can spread when they want to simply hate a person.
Exactly.

As has been said many times, if we all had a camera following us around day in and day out, there ARE going to be things that upset others.
     
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    07-21-2011, 11:10 AM
  #22
Doe
Weanling
Tiny has it correct.

CA is extremely aggressive with all horses I have seen him work with. It's hidden behind 'being the alpha mare' which IMO is just rubbish perpetuated by people who know no better, and don't truly wish to become horsemen.

CA is a trainer not a horseman. Not knocking trainers, it's a job, but I wish some of them would not pretend about what or who they are. To trainers like CA, the end justifies the means. Mindy is a perfect example of that. A robot. No soul. No expression. No spirit, No life. Buy a motorbike if want a 'functional vehicle' . I see nothing to admire, except a small personality and a big ego.

One question for these type of trainers. When aggression and oppression fails , what do you do? When you have to work with one of the 0.001% of horses that cannot be overpowered or broken. The horse that commits to the fight not flight?
Answer? They do not have one.............
     
    07-21-2011, 11:34 AM
  #23
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
Equi,

Although some people have "strapped" a horse's head to the chest through a drawing device while longing, it is usually done while riding. The rider simply cranks back on the reins, pulling the horse's head into the chest.
I didn't mean the horse's head was literally strapped down with a tie or device, it was just the only word I could think of to describe that the horse was forcably keeping its head tucked to its chest. Hence the quotes, hehe. I mean, if the reins/rider's hands are keeping the horse behind the bit with such exaggeration and it cannot move, I would nearly consider it "strapped" down.
     
    07-21-2011, 11:50 AM
  #24
Trained
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Originally Posted by Doe    
One question for these type of trainers. When aggression and oppression fails , what do you do? When you have to work with one of the 0.001% of horses that cannot be overpowered or broken. The horse that commits to the fight not flight?
Answer? They do not have one.............
Answer... I get rid of them and move on. 99.99% of horses respond quite well to my brand of "cruelty" and make good responsible mounts. I don't have any desire to drink your brand of cool-aid. If I want my horse to follow me, I'll put a halter on it rather than dance around with a stick. Rather than spew vitriol why don't you enter the real world where horses have jobs to do besides making you feel superior to the " ignorant masses"?
     
    07-21-2011, 11:51 AM
  #25
Green Broke
My comment is to shock collars.

I used to have a chronic cribber, to the point where he would rather crib then eat. When it gets to the point where you cannot control it, I'd rather shock him then him colic or destroy his teeth.
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    07-21-2011, 11:52 AM
  #26
Banned
Great post, Kevin!


Shock collars are just an electrostatic shock. Like the fencer, like dog collars. Why are people so up in arms about using them on a 1200lb animal?
     
    07-21-2011, 11:59 AM
  #27
Started
You have good posts and to the point, Kevin!

On a side note, what are some of y'alls thoughts on Buck Brannaman and his methods? Do they compare with Clinton Anderson's?
     
    07-21-2011, 11:59 AM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Great post, Kevin!


Shock collars are just an electrostatic shock. Like the fencer, like dog collars. Why are people so up in arms about using them on a 1200lb animal?
The most it will hurt is the horse's feelings. Luckily, those regenerate at about 10000x the speed of any other animal's.
     
    07-21-2011, 12:01 PM
  #29
Green Broke
I'm a supporter of shock collars. Without them our dog would be road kill. Also if you don't like shock collars..what about electric fences?
     
    07-21-2011, 12:02 PM
  #30
Trained
I have an even better suggestion. If you don't like shock collars DON'T USE THEM!!
     

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